Amir and Blind Testing


Let me start by saying I like watching Amir from ASR, so please let’s not get harsh or the thread will be deleted. Many times, Amir has noted that when we’re inserting a new component in our system, our brains go into (to paraphrase) “analytical mode” and we start hearing imaginary improvements. He has reiterated this many times, saying that when he switched to an expensive cable he heard improvements, but when he switched back to the cheap one, he also heard improvements because the brain switches from “music enjoyment mode” to “analytical mode.” Following this logic, which I agree with, wouldn’t blind testing, or any A/B testing be compromised because our brains are always in analytical mode and therefore feeding us inaccurate data? Seems to me you need to relax for a few hours at least and listen to a variety of music before your brain can accurately assess whether something is an actual improvement.  Perhaps A/B testing is a strawman argument, because the human brain is not a spectrum analyzer.  We are too affected by our biases to come up with any valid data.  Maybe. 

chayro

A video telling people they are reviewing speakers incorrectly, suggesting the importance of DBT, by a fellow who does sighted listening evaluations against a single DUT while having already seen the data. 
 

Come on. Common sense is failing society. 

Here’s an actual smart person (who designed the powerplant) showing how to measure a power conditioner.

 

Speakers are measured on a Klippel and are usually listened to in mono.  Amir's listening part of the review is his opinion and in no way meant to influence your purchasing.  I don't own speakers recommended on ASR but I do appreciate the effort put forth by Amir in his speaker testing it gives one a good look as to if the speaker has been properly designed and how well it can be adjusted by DSP.  How you like speakers to sound is entirely your own preference. 

You have to live with something for an extended time before a judgment can be made as to its worth.  Comparative experience is also required to make any meaningful statements regarding the performance of any gear.  Measurements can tell you what something is doing electronically, but it can’t tell you how it will sound to your ears in your system.

You are perfectly right to say so....

I too appreciated Amir effort and journey with his tools and investigations...

I went on his site and even try to participate few years ago...

But i guess i did not appreciate the ideology of his vast court of disciples attitudes toward listening experiments at all...And sarcasms instead of an opened spirit...

I never go back... Why ?

Because we choose a piece of gear not mainly by numbers, measured numbers are only the necessary beginnings but the last word about choice of gear is by listenings or/ and analysing ton of reviews or others opinions....

Amir is honest to himself and do what he want to do and it can be useful because he inquire about claims yes......

But "the measuring tool fetichism" ideology of his disciples crowd worsen and impede listening experiments in acoustic and psycho-acoustic by making belive to people that the S.Q. results come more from the gear specs itself than the link between the system and the room/ears acoustic and psycho-acoustic relation...

The "tasting gear brand name fetichist" group and the "measuring tools gear fetichist" group are linked together by the same underestimation of ears/room objective acoustic and subjective psycho-acoustic CORRELATION experience and experiments...

Consumers are conditioned by the market like the RCA dog listening directly the gear pavilion  or reading some numbers on a dial like the dog master without NEVER analysing the relation between the system as a whole the specific ears and the specific room...

i am a free thinker and i dont like groups...Anyway....😁😊

i admire Amir for sure but despise "yes man" then i cannot stand the disciples attitude toward something OUT of their perspective ....I am human myself and far from perfection...

I don’t own speakers recommended on ASR but I do appreciate the effort put forth by Amir in his speaker testing it gives one a good look as to if the speaker has been properly designed and how well it can be adjusted by DSP. How you like speakers to sound is entirely your own preference.