Do I really need an " Audio Grade Network Switch "?


I think it's been a quite controversial topic for years, like what's the difference between normal network switch and an audio grade network switch, the price difference is certainly obvious though...
Anyway, I've done some researches, most audio reviewers say that under this " new digital streaming era " that an network switch is a must for an audio system, which is understandable for me, I mean because if I wanna play TIDAL or Qobuz or Spotify, I gotta use network so I can stream these online services, so yeah I get that if the network quality is good enough, it can possibly level up the music performance.

But anyhow, I'm new to this area, so I don't like to spend big bucks on my first purchase hahaha... there's a very wide range of the prices though, the top one is Ansuz Power Switch I think, the inner circuit and design look pretty sharp, and surely over my budget lol

So I'm choosing between Bonn N8 and SW-8, these two both got good reviews, and the prices seem so darn much friendly to me as I'm looking for an entry level switch now, do any of you have any insights to share?
or should I just go for the higher level ones?

Best,

preston8452

I am feeding a dCS Network Bridge with good optical + audioquest diamond  thru 3 switches (ER x 2 + Sotm)  Further, each stage is externally reclocked by a double emperor clock, as is the NB (as suggested by dCS).  

I heard improvement at every stage (including when improving clock cables).

All I can say is that different systems react differently.  In my case it's a huge, repeat huge upgrade.  

Try in your own system whatever anyone says.

We really  don't know everything.

Best wishes

 

 

 

 

anybody care to go back and see how many times this has been discussed on this and many other forums with the exact same results? Next time somebody wants to discuss this, please do just a tiny bit of research and see that it has been discussed ad nauseam..If I had seen it before you all chimed in I could have summarized the responses before they were posted. 

It is an endless and fruitless debate. It is an utter and complete waste of time. We see the same things stated over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again

and yet we will very soon see yet another thread where we see the same things stated over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again

@herman,

the problem is the immature state of digital music reproduction: to wit: lack of interfaces with universally applicable results, error correction and dsp protocols with uncertain impact on sound reproduction, differential quality of power supplies and other signal transmission prone to RMI/EFI as well as ground level noise incursions, various degrees of clocking accuracy and phase noise generation and rejection, shall I go on? It doesn’t help that most reviewers tend to skirt these issues and give highly system context dependent recommendations. So I am afraid we’ll have to keep wading through endless threads. I only wish that people who have nothing but theoretical postulates to reiterate would exercise some restraint. My digital replay continues to evolve from an early start with the first CD players via computer servers to dedicated servers and latest generation dacs. In the process I have found significant benefits from gradual finetuning of all digital connections through signal and power cables, Isolators, reclockers, and power supplies.

Most of all: let’s enjoy the music!

I like to say, yes and yes, from my experiences trying many many switches and finally ended up accepting the Sotm 10G + ZeroZone R-Core 100 watts LPS + Shunyata Venon V12 NR + Ghents Audio DC cable.

I went to hell and back spending hundreds of dollars lost quantifying this equation.

Hard road to travel and will not be doing it again. 

I don’t even have a streaming network, but feel compelled to respond. Count me in the "everything matters (sonically)" camp.

That doesn’t mean I have an electrical engineering degree and would enjoy debating this point with every wonk that pops up on these threads. Always a bad sign when the same people post 3-4X with increasing hysteria when no one seems to be paying attention to their assertions that NOTHING MATTERS WHATSOEVER in all things digital. Once is enough, guys.

I have a history of actually hearing small differences due to minor system changes. When I hear, I’m using the only test instruments I possess--ears. So I can dabble with this or that box to do this or that, so long as I can afford the cost. Why not?

I remember the fury unleashed on people like me who heard early ’80s CDs & digital players as sounding horrible compared to any decent vinyl rig. Saying that was like saying there’s no Christmas or Santa or anything but moon rock. People went batshit crazy. Decades later, we all know about jitter; we all know about the influence of power supplies, clocks, other components--things that weren’t known in the early ’80s.

So really, I trust my ears more than anyone shouting from the rooftops that nothing matters in digital sound.

PS: I heard and still hear improvements in digital audio sound by using SPDIF converters in-line before the DAC (to my ears coax sounds best of the various non-USB options). And I recently replaced my main SPDIF converter with a DDC (a SPDIF converter that also reclocks the signal) and immediately heard sonic improvements. I've also heard changes (most positive, but some not) when using audiophile USB cords in those times I listen to digital via USB straight into the DAC. 

(ie, everything matters sonically)