Cary V-12 blowing capacitors


Hi,

I have a pair of Cary V12 monoblocks one of which is blowing capacitors. It was initially sent in to cary as it was the 3 Amp fuses. They initially replace the capacitors and sent it back. It worked briefly and then started blowing fuses again. It went back to Carrie and this time they replaced both transformers. It did work for a couple of weeks but yesterday when I turn it on and was in the standby mode I heard a crackling noise from inside the amp and 3 amp fuse blew again. There was a large puddle of oil in the back of the amp which is from the capacitor. So it seems like something is still not repaired correctly which is causing the capacitors to blow which maybe is why the fuses are blowing. With it being to cary twice and they are not really sure what's happening has anyone else had this issue?
whataboutbob1

"Its pure speculation, but adding the new components could have stressed out the older UCC’s. I don’t know for sure, but it’s quite possible. The original power transformer that was in it had a direct short and could have caused the UCC’s to stress."



Does that sounds like a reasonable explanation?

@whataboutbob1 

No- its the other way around.The failing filter cap drew enough current that the old power transformer eventually failed (a short is a typical failure in this case). Since they didn't replace the filter cap, with the new transformer (which apparently is a bit more robust) it was able to sustain its current- and the defective filter cap overheated and leaked.


Just so you know, the mechanism of filter cap failure is that when they get old enough, they can draw a little bit of current (normally the draw none of their own at all). This current causes the cap to warm up. As it does so it will draw more current. The insidious thing about this is it might take quite a while before the cap is drawing enough current to cause damage- but in the meantime the transformer is running hotter and hotter until eventually the insulation inside melts and it shorts.

he said the only way for them to explode is if they were wired with reverse polarity.
This statement as you can now see is false. It is true that if you wire them backwards they'll draw a lot of current and explode. Usually they do that pretty fast. But if the part has failed it can do this as well- the difference being that it usually takes longer.


IMO/IME they should have replaced the filter cap at the time they replaced the power transformer. Transformers should last decades- the only die if overstressed, and filter caps can do that to them. Any competent tech that saw a failure like that would have been asking why it happened and looking for the cause.
Not sure where those caps are but they blow Only becoz:

- used polar caps instead of bipolar 
- used lower voltage than they need to be
- something nearby is heating them up

and less likely:
- their ripple current capacity should be increased. 
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In this picture you can SEE the Hexfred were not replaced.. THEY were not upgraded. You can clearly see the old diode that Cary used in the original design.

Buddy not only were you sold a bill of goods you didn’t even get the basic service upgrade of hexfreds or super hexfreds in the PS, not to mention the filter caps.. This just keeps getting better..

The blown resistor is just that.. its a bleeder resistor.

NONE of this stuff would have happened if the filter caps (ALL of them) were replaced at once..

The pop was the coupling cap charging. Don’t flip the stand by switch so quick on a cold start.. give it 5 minutes at least.. The machine was hotrodded without a PS upgrade.. What did the tech expect..

Learn or expect to spend a lot of money in the future and ruin some fine amps.. 150.00 right now for all three.. :-) I’ll fix all three in 60 minutes..

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