Technics or Kuzma turntable.


My next turntable has come down to this, a Technics SP-10R with a acoustand plinth and Kuzma 11 inch 4 point arm or a Kuzma Stabi R with the 11 inch Kuzma 4 point arm. If anyone has any experience with these two table and have heard them both I would like to know what your opinions are on the sonic differences between them.
Thanks.
128x128garkat62
The Stabi R is not the Kuzma to get. You want the Stabi Ref 2 or the Stabi M.
@mijostyn

Where did you hear a comaprison of the 3 Kuzma TT's or is this a fantasy in your head like many of your posts.

@garkat62
In actual fact the Stabi R and the Stabi M are the new generation Kuzmas with the new DC motor and controller. I know of at least one Kuzma owner who has "upgraded" from the Stabi Ref 2 to the newer Stabi R with a 4Point and is very happy.

The Stabi R uses the same motor/platter/bearing from the M and is exceptional value for money. Yes the M is better than the R at a much higher price point.

Also note that Kuzma now has an active antivibration platform in their portfolio that you could add to the R.

Personally I prefer the Kuzma to the Technics - for me the Technics are too digital sounding - its like like going to the dentist.

Thanks Dover for the reply, I hear the Technics tables have a exciting leading edge with lots of impact and Franc Kuzma tries to intragrate the best of idler, belt and DD into his tables so I hope he is right because I have yet to hear one.
Last year, I chose the Artisan Fidelity SP10 Mk2 over the Stabi R with the 4P 11 in arm. I felt that the Technics was able to retrieve more detail from the record and overall presentation was slightly better,  Not the SP10R, but thought I'd share my experience anyways. Both good turntables. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
I really enjoy your comments and it helps to hear what people think about these two tables because I will not have a chance to hear the Technics SP-10R in a Acoustand plinth or a Kuzma table before I buy one because of the distance I will have to travel to listen to one.
Thanks for your opinions.
I have a very early SP-10 (mark I)- not the desired motor, heavy platter or speed control) that I have owned since 1973 and had Bill Thalmann restore it. I also have a Kuzma XL with Airline arm, which was the big daddy of the line originally. Not a fair comparison in the sense that my SP-10 is not in the league of the mk II, let alone the mk iii or the new model, but I will tell you I’ve had that table for what? almost 50 years and it still sounds great. Ditto the big Kuzma, which is a commitment, partly because it requires more measures to isolate effectively given its mass. I can tell you Franc Kuzma is a very good guy. I’ve had overnight turnaround on some stuff from Slovenia! Crazy (that was when I lived in NY so it was an easier flight than to Austin, TX where I live now). And if you are in the States, Scot Markwell is a pleasure to deal with and actually knows what he is talking about.
You should try and audition the tables. I think the sound of a turntable is hard to discern without a controlled comparison involving no other variables. Pretty tough to do but possible if you are in a place that is audio-heavy. Austin is a backwater compared to NY, but NY isn’t what it was during the ’80s for hi-fi. Depending on where you have to travel to hear these, it might be worth a round trip ticket, I dunno. (Oh, flying sucks right now, sorry, but I'd travel to hear something if I knew in advance that the necessary arrangements were made to set up a meaningful comparison).