Naim introduce a turntable - the Solstice Special Edition

@mijostyn, if everything about music reproduction was technically measurable then 

1. Almost all TTs should more or less similar
2. We would not need anything more than a Technics SL1200 for a near perfect music reproduction.

When we "audiophiles" say pace, it is not speed. A song measuring 183 secs will still end in 183 secs but we are talking about the way notes get formed and carry the flow. The agility of the notes, the leading edge sharpness, the body and decay, and the lead up into the next note, all forms the structure and flow of music. DD, BD & ID all have a certain characteristic way to joining the notes (due to the kind of distortion the drive brings to the platter). Whether technical measurements detects anomaly or not, our ears can very easily detect these differences.

Pani, it is exactly that kind of gibberish that I find particularly non sensical.
Stop trying to make up excuses for what you think you here. Just enjoy the music and comment on whether or not you like the sound. When you come with things like, "the leading edge sharpness, the body and decay, and the lead up to the next note, all forms the structure and the flow of the music." I want to puke. The structure and flow of the music is the sold responsibility of the artist not a bunch of tubes, wires, belts and paper cones. We "audiophiles"?? Please exclude me from that group

Exactly! what the artist actually created, when it gets messed up during reproduction, is what we are talking about. You do not hear it, thats awesome. I also would like to be in your position.

It is not about what I "think" I hear. I know what I hear and I spot it without analyzing much. Whether I can express it well, is a different matter but I honestly try not to mince words. 

You don't like this mumbo jumbo? I get it. 

Btw, when you put on a Michael Jackson record on a $15k TT and don't feel like dancing to the rhythm, there is something wrong. Is it wow, flutter, da da da da, I don't know. But It happens very often in high end audio.

Thats why most audio demonstrations in shows happen on simple vocal based music, with couple of instruments in the background. 

@pani,

"Thats why most audio demonstrations in shows happen on simple vocal based music, with couple of instruments in the background."


When I went to an early presentation of the Naim Ovator s600s that's exactly the kind of music they were displaying.

Of course they would probably cite many reasons for that, high quality recordings / lack of compression etc.

Unfortunately 95% of my collection isn't like that. A good tip is to take your own music with you as most folks will oblige you. 

The only problem is if you notice the room quickly beginning to empty.

On the other hand, at the last show I attended (2019) they were quite happy to play the entire side 2 of Abbey Road.

Most of the listeners remained seated if I remember correctly.

Here's hoping it's back on later this year.