Why is science just a starting point and not an end point?

Bob Carver accepted the amplifier challenge from Stereophile, many years ago, and won. He showed that he could duplicate the sound of an expensive amplifier


Then why is he making tube amps now.

There was a time when one could look at a contributor’s profile and see, not only all of that person’s posts in the various threads, but also the tally of total number of posts according to category (“analog”, “digital”, “misc”, etc.); posts in threads either initiated, or participated in. When participating in or following a discussion where the topic was, or turned to, the issue of objectivity (science) vs subjectivity I would find it interesting to look at a poster’s post tally according to category after trying to guess which category would have the most, or the least, number of posts. Not always, but the OVERWHELMING majority of the time the objectivist would have very few and usually zero posts in the “music” category, or passing mention of that general topic in posts in other categories. Not sure that one can make general assumptions, but likely that there is something to extrapolate from this curious factoid.

Mahgister, your legs may be doing the walking but your brain is controlling the show. So many things happen when you walk that you are totally unaware of. Your arms swing and the muscle attached to your pelvis tighten to keep the opposite side from falling when you pick your legs up. Same is true of hearing. 

@frogman, I seriously doubt people who dislike music spend serious money on stereo systems. Music preferences are purely subjective and a matter of taste. Stereo systems are not. If you want to improve the performance of your system an objective approach will get your there faster at much less expense.  

No one said anything about “dislike”. Of course one has to like music to some degree to bother with stereo. Not a question of “dislike”, but rather the level of involvement in one pursuit vs the other.

**** ......Stereo systems are not (subjective) ****

Really? Then why such varied ideas as to what “good sound” is?

**** If you want to improve the performance of your system an objective approach will get your there faster at much less expense.  ****

  Not so sure.

Mahgister, your legs may be doing the walking but your brain is controlling the show. So many things happen when you walk that you are totally unaware of. Your arms swing and the muscle attached to your pelvis tighten to keep the opposite side from falling when you pick your legs up. Same is true of hearing.

You completely missed my point and answered back with a common place fact....

« If there is millions of neurons in the guts we can think of the guts to have a brain of their own, it is the same for any organs even the ears, then we can say that the brain is all over the body, and we can say that the body is INTO the brain»-Anonymus Smith

To understand read Wilder Penfield...



And you completely missed the point of frogman and answered in the same way with a common place fact...

music is NOT sound.....music is a spiritual life.... Sound is not.....


In this case it is not "bad faith" from you, it is plain to see that your nose is glued on the floor....

I am sorry for you....

I apologize for my rudeness....

I am too passionnate....