Schumann Resonator

@bemused,@mapman

I am just trying to get some agreement on whether these things change the actual measurable sound in the room. Not how we process it.

I am not an acoustical or sound engineer (but admittedly am an engineer who believes in science and showing how experiments support theories on a repeatable basis). You say it should increase the sound by a fraction of a dB. Have you done this? Is that tiny increase noticeable?

I don't have a DB meter or pink noise generator and am not sure that is what a microphone is measuring in preparation for acoustic treatment. I thought it looks at different frequencies. I don't have one of those either. 

Please can a unbiased person do this?

I hear @mahgister talk about metal plates and diamonds and crystals and all sorts of other random things he recommends adding to the SGs. I was once told by a non medical professional (I forget how she positioned herself - maybe a healer?) how a magical crystal filled electric powered pad (not scientifically measurable or mentioning heat) cures all ills - it turned out to be a super expensive heating pad, which of course has benefits if used properly. I know @mahgister is not making any money off of this, and if it sounds better to him, then great. A glass of his favorite beverage would improve the sound to him as well.

When @millercarbon says the more the better, and no law of diminishing returns, then why not fill the room with them since they are so inexpensive? The law of diminishing returns is always true Chuck.

What is important to us should be whether or not these are actual audio devices that change the sound, just like acoustic panels and bass traps do, vibration control devices do, equalizers do, DBXs & 3BXs (remember those) or are they some type of biological influencer like the temperature or humidity of the room, even smells or lighting in the room (not its electrical effects on the circuit if on the same one as the stereo or magnetic impact of daylight). And if they are biological, that is OK - enjoy, but don't mention them as an audio enhancer. Maybe a mood enhancer.

What is important to us should be whether or not these are actual audio devices that change the sound, just like acoustic panels and bass traps do, vibration control devices do, equalizers do, DBXs & 3BXs (remember those) or are they some type of biological influencer like the temperature or humidity of the room, even smells or lighting in the room

Do you read my post?

TRY AN EXPERIMENT:

put a piece of shungite on it: the sound will be compressed...

Put an herkimer diamond: the sound will be decompressed...

Put the 2 together you will have a balanced effect...

Call that an objective perception if many people perceive the 2 effects...


IS it difficult to understand?


No i dont sell "snake oil" thanks for saying it....I sell creativity.... My brain is not bounded by prejudices.... I tried 30 minerals at least in a set of 2 years experiments....Each one has his own qualitative effects by the way..... I let mantras to believers zealots or to sunday sceptic zealots...

Thanks for saying that i am not a crook , only a deluded mind perhaps... 😁 But for me the deluded mind are those participating in  the blind consumerism of audio...

But deluded mind dont propose experiments... By the way.... If they do, it is easy to falsify....


I can change the sound of a room with a SINGLE straw.... i did it.... Is it delusion? No it is Helmhotz science....

Experiments are not opinions.... They are a process with an end which can be replicated....


Dont upgrade anything before embedding everything right.... is it snake oil?

Regarding measurement Schumann Resonance, according to Wikipedia article on "Schumann Resonance":

" Measurements[edit]

Today Schumann resonances are recorded at many separate research stations around the world. The sensors used to measure Schumann resonances typically consist of two horizontal magnetic inductive coils for measuring the north-south and east-west components of the magnetic field, and a vertical electric dipole antenna for measuring the vertical component of the electric field. A typical passband of the instruments is 3–100 Hz. The Schumann resonance electric field amplitude (~300 microvolts per meter) is much smaller than the static fair-weather electric field (~150 V/m) in the atmosphere. Similarly, the amplitude of the Schumann resonance magnetic field (~1 picotesla) is many orders of magnitude smaller than the Earth's magnetic field (~30–50 microteslas).[25] Specialized receivers and antennas are needed to detect and record Schumann resonances. The electric component is commonly measured with a ball antenna, suggested by Ogawa et al., in 1966,[26] connected to a high-impedance amplifier. The magnetic induction coils typically consist of tens- to hundreds-of-thousands of turns of wire wound around a core of very high magnetic permeability."

So good luck trying this at home folks.....

So good luck trying this at home folks.....

And you think that this is a valid objection ?

The experiment of trying to link a chinese S.G. at 10 bucks to improve the sound has nothing to do with your wiki post....Our experiment is NOT measuring accurately the Shumann resonance like in this post.... It has NOTHING to do with it...

Mapman do you want to try or do you want to put arguments that have no direct link with which is proposed? Only to confirm your opinionated attitude? Do you want to be right at the cost of being incoherent like in posting this wiki description of how to measure the Schumann resonance to only confort your belief?


Are you a professionnal sceptic? if yes i will not discuss further...For me believers or professionnal sceptics are the same delusion....I prefer to think and experiment...

In audio i dont buy anything, i dont put any money, i tried to create my sound heaven at peanuts cost, for that believing was of no use at all, scepticism was no more useful.... Thinking was and is useful.... Try to think by yourself....

By the way i succeeded.... At peanuts costs....

maghister,

Someone proposed it be measured.

That is how to do it.

You emotions are getting the best of you. You seem to take any questions about these things as a personal attack. You know they are not. Merely discussion to get to the facts....ie keep it real. Also light, if possible. Nothing more valuable than that. That is my only goal. If you find that threatening, then look in the mirror for the cause my friend. No need to justify yourself. We all do things our own way and we hear what we hear.