thyname, Cleeds,
Thank you for proving the point I was making above perfectly. You are already making excuses.
Thank you for proving the point I was making above perfectly. You are already making excuses.
What is wrong with audiophiles?
atdavid
... you would think at least one vendor would take it upon themselves to do a double blind controlled demonstration (administered by a non-biased 3rd party) to demonstrate the veracity of their claims.No, that's what you apparently think. Why is it that those who so often clamor for such tests insist that others conduct the research for them? |
Cleeds, You continue to muddy the waters rather than aid clarity, and this includes your usual use of strawmen. You complain of the discourse in the forum on these subjects, yet add to the problem by refusing to acknowledge anyone presenting a nuanced view that won't fit in to the stereotype box you want to diss. I (and atdavid) have been quite clear and specific about what type of situations merit testing an individual, based on the claim being investigated. Instead of actually showing the logic to be faulty, you simply make statements meant to imply it's faulty. Not good enough.You are arguing with what you take to be someone's position in your own head, not with someone's actual position. Finally: As to endorsing the statement made by "thyname" your wrote: That is essentially what many measurementalists on this forum believe.How about actual examples showing "many measurementalists on this forum" believe this? Or is this yet another strawman? I for one would not agree with thyname's statement, and I've gone in to why not explicitly numerous times on this forum. It's just lazy to ignore what someone actually writes. |
thyname, One Simple Question: Why does this not happen? How do you know it never happened? Most importantly: if something does not convince you, don't buy it. As simple as that. It's a free market. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy something. Finally, my point was about "the making claims" part. If people cannot "do a double blind controlled demonstration (administered by a non-biased 3rd party)" test, then they are not allowed to express any opinion on something they own and enjoy? Why? Then why all audio hobbyists even discuss, and share with each other what they enjoy (including yourself)? What is the point? It's a hobby for God's sake! What's your agenda? |
What's your agenda thyname? You actually troll people on one forum, so you can post about and complain about them on another forum. It would seem the only person with an "agenda" here is you. I don't have an agenda, but I do feel that those on the fence deserve an honest look at many of the questionable claims made, so that they Can make informed decisions about what they purchase. Do you go on rants about Consumer Reports too? How about every audio magazine ... every time they posts a review they are influencing people about how to spend their money. Like I said, you can make any claim you want. No one is stopping you. If anything, you are the one trying to shut down others with statements about others you cannot even backup. |