Thoughts about Jadis and Harbeth


I recently acquired some beautiful Harbeth Compact 7 through a good dealer. Currently I am using a Pioneer AVR, VSX-53 as my amp and using Nvidia Shield to play Tidal etc. While it sounds pretty good, obviously I can get way better. 

My dealer like Jadis and I heard them briefly and they do sound great paired with the Harbeth. It has been suggested I go with a jadis orchestra reference. Anyone have experiences with it and thoughts about the match up. I listen to everything really, and my budget at least where I'd like to keep it is 4k.

That doesn't leave a lot of room as I need to update my source. I have no problem paying that for that amp as it is very high quality. I also considered the Rouge II/III as an option as well. I also considered Luxman and a few integrated class d options. Like the NAD m10 as it basically checks off mostly everything for me, and is way cheaper then the less powerful Naim Unity line. If you cant tell I like the display options of these two devices, NAD seems like it would be a good option and use pre outs to Jadis. The only problem it has no HT bypass and that a bit annoying, as I'd like to continue to use AVR for tv. Not sure if using the preout would allow the sub to still work. 

Sorry for the long read, just looking for a little help to get me pointed in the right direction. I wouldn't say im new to the hobby, but in a good place to start buying better equipment and moving away from the HT mode I've been in for years. 
vatoman
If possible hear the Jadis with the Harbeths and compare to others! I think the Orchestra will beat most similar tube amps simply because Jadis make their own very high quality output transformers. The only problem with Jadis is that you can't bias the output tubes without removing the bottom plate. 

^^^ 1.Demo'd Orchestra in 2012 & I stand by my assessment of build quality!Thin top plate flexed with minimal pressure,tube sockets were crooked & don't get me started about having to take the amp,turn it upside down & remove back plate,then power the amp & try to bias using a meter & screwdriver!
 2.a.ANY thoughts on amps made in Far East without a FULL deconstruction to check components & build quality as I have done is NOTHING but speculation & anecdotal evidence spewed out by Dealers & Mans.in a vain effort to discredit the FACT that most all but the absolute cheapest versions use NOTHING but the highest quality components & construction available so they can justify the MASSIVELY overpriced products based on outdated voodoo word of mouth & subjective listening by someone trying to make a profit off end users who either can not or do not do their due diligence & discover the TRUTH about brick & mortar dealers & mans.trying to keep so called "HEA" alive based on price=quality mentality!
2b.I challenge ANY HEA dealer to set up a double blind listening session,anchored by ONLY end users,between your overpriced amp & the top models from Rogue,Raven,Prima Luna,Cayin & Yaqin & broadcast LIVE to the audio listening world in order to put to death the outdated Price=Quality garbage that continues to drive so called HEA & end users who drink that coolaid.
 3.Just because Jadis makes their own transformers means nothing.MOST of the available Tube Amps/Integrateds today use superior Japanese Hashimoto or Tamura transformers special built for the circuits being driven so that argument is a wash!Do they also make their own Caps,Diodes,Resistors or Volume Pots?NO they do not,they use IDENTICAL components that every other manufacturer has available to them.OP it is your $,do you want to just throw it at some B&M dealer trying to keep his doors open for business or do you want the absolute best amp for the $?
 @freediver  So, you are annoyed that you had to go through a biasing procedure with the ‘supposed’ Jadis amp that you auditioned. 
While I agree with you that biasing a tube amp is usually not much fun, Jadis utilize several auto biasing schemes in their more recent amps. Unfortunately, most all tube amps either need to be self biased, or have a self biasing feature.
Having said all that, I think it is best that you enjoy your Cayin...
The Jadis gear clearly isn’t for you.
Oh, and just keep on bashing B&M stores too...:0(
Hi.  This is a bit off topic, but I would like some feedback around anyone with Harbeth Class D amp experience?  I have the NAD M2 $6K single box and the Harbeth importer is a couple hours from me in New Hampshire.  For a few years now, I've been contemplating bringing the NAD and a thumb drive of my music to the store to investigate how they might compare up to my modded sealed Salk Veracity HT1's.  A friend who's ears I trust loved the smaller Harbeths however found them lacking when he still wants to rock out.  At 73, I'm rocking less and large classical is also being selected less and less as well.  Would appreciate any thoughts.

VATOMAN, this question might be of value to your search, hopefully.  Best of luck!...more peace, Pinthrift