REL Vs SVS for 2 channel music listening

I believe jayctoy meant to say he bought a Rythmik F12G. The G designates the GR Research 12" paper cone driver, the aluminum-coned Rythmik version being named just F12. The aluminum-coned woofer is said to play louder than the paper-coned version before "breaking up", due to the greater stiffness of aluminum. Danny Richie of GR Research designed the paper-cone woofer because he feels paper has a more natural, organic timbre than aluminum, and that the paper's lower mass produces greater low-level resolution. When have you heard a sub talked about in those terms?! The Rythmik and GR Research subs are unusually good at music reproduction.

"d2girls

12-09-2017 12:14pm

"Do you guys have any suggestions for a good sub just for movies? Don't want to add stereo subs or a single sub for music..."

VANDERSTEEN V2W


VANDERSTEEN makes two different subwoofer models: one with external crossover kit for 2-channel music  (V2Q) , and an AV/ HT unit with a LFE single cable input. (V2W)

For the V2W :  highly Recommended ..I have it along with a CASTLE CLASSIC ( a rebranded ATC sub)

In a direct A-B shootout at my home, it was a unanimous choice for the VANDY by all 4 listeners.

 If you know ATC, you know good they can be: they make them up to the $9K pricepoint for home use and multiples of that for commercial.

http://www.audioconnect.com/product/vandersteen-v2w-subwoofer/

http://www.soundstage.com/video/revequip/vandersteen_theater.htm

I wonder how many of you that are dissing or recommending other than REL have heard a REL Sub-Bass system properly set up in a good two-channel system with full-range loudspeakers?

RELs are not designed to work as fixes for speakers with poor bass response or with crossovers that alter the cutoff frequencies of the main speakers. They are designed to load the room and augment the bass response of the mains, therefore providing a lower and fuller low bass extension with more slam, as well as enhancing the soundstage size and sense of air around performers. Additionally, they can be used in out-of-phase mode to help alleviate room bass node issues.

AFAIK, they are the only sub system (other than the Sumiko knock-offs) that use a high-level signal from the amplifier’s outputs such that they see the same signal (and thus the upstream gear’s sound character) as the main speakers.

Although a few of the best "digital" subs outperform RELs in HT slam(movie explosions and such), nothing integrates better into a good two channel system than a REL unless it digitizes the signal and uses DSP to measure the room and alter the signal digitally. Even then, only the TOTL $$$ digitalizing subs better the RELs for seamless integration and positive sound enhancement of a two channel system.

REL has been around a very long time and there is a reason for that despite the higher price vs many newcomers...

Dave

Actually, many of the plate amps on Rythmik subs contain binding posts that take the output from a power amp (high-level signal), using the amp as it's source. The ones that don't are those that contain XLR inputs---the XLR2 and XLR3 model amps. Buyers are given the choice of plate amp models. All the Rythmik amps also contain RCA input jacks, for those preferring to use the low-level signal from a pre-amp as the source.