Harbeth C7ES vs Maggie 1.6 QR


Does anyone have experience with these (very different) speakers?

I own a Plinius 8200 MII integrated and was told the Harbeths sound magical with it.

My Maggies are great but I am looking for a more dynamic sound with better midrange tone.

I expect the Maggies to beat the Harbeths in the bass, is this correct?

I use all AZ wire.

any comments are appreciated.

Phil
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thanks prdprez, for a very helpful response, especially the part about the Harbeths having the 'inviting' midrange.

I am surprised you say the Harbeth is about the same as the Maggie in the high end as far as being open and detailed. I expected the Harbeths to have more 'air' and better detail in the midrange too.

I know what I am doing as far as getting away from the planar design. If the Harbeths are even in the ballpark as far as retaining most of the virtues of the Maggies I think I would be happy.

thanks again

Phil
Dear Phil,
What an interesting post! I had the same issue happen recently. I 'LOVED' my Magneplanar 1.6qr's but thought something was missing. I sold them thinking I would by some dynamic, box speakers. I wound up with a pair of Audio Physic Tempo's which were quite nice. But something was missing. Certain instruments in favorite recordings were not presenting themselves well, and I could tell the system was "a system", and it just didn't do it like the Magneplanars.

I sold the box speakers and went back to the Magneplanars, at a LO$$. I like the Maggie sound best and it works for me! Save your hard earned money or upgrade somewhere else.

hope this helps.
A suggestion...Don't divorce your Maggies. Just have an affair with some box speakers. Then you can always come home!
Hififile,

Thanks for a thoughtful response, I know the Maggies are a well rounded speaker and maybe I will learn the hard way. I do like the way the Maggies do not get in the way of the music. I just do not think of them much just whatever is playing, it just always sounds like it is in the next room or somehow lifeless.

Eldartford,

Not a bad idea. Maybe after years with planar speakers, from Quad ESL 57s to my 1.6s, I want more dynamics and just want to experience something different.
Well guys I thought about the Harbeths but saw a good deal on some Reynaud Trentes and replaced my 1.6s with them. I am very happy as they are quite a bit more detailed and have better tone.

I do not even think about the box vs planar thing as these throw an amazing soundstage, quite a bit deeper than the Maggies and with finer placement of instruments etc.

But where these really are better is in the midrange - the tones are beautiful and integrate with the bass and high end really well. The bass is very articulate and again the tone is great. The high end is extremely detailed and has a beautiful 'shimmer' to cymbols etc. I think the Listener review is right about the feeling there is a person in the room playing the music, you forget about the stereo - no kidding these are the real McCoys.

I think the only areas where the Maggies beat the Reynauds are they play louder and the bass goes lower and they have a bigger image.

thaks again to all who responded

Phil