Harbeth P3's or CS7 easier drive


I'm driving the P3's with a Croft phono Integrated. It's a very nice combo, and I would think very hard to beat for the money. Opinions may vary of course. I can't help but wonder if the C7's would unleash the Croft a bit. I remember the dealer playing the SHL5's for me after the P3's, and they easily sounded more efficient...Played louder with same amp and VC set the same. That was what I had heard about the 5's, so no surprise there. The C7's are spec'd at 86db, while the P3's I believe are 83.5db. However, the Harbeth site suggests an amp with higher wattage (than P3) for the C7's. Cheers -Don
fjn04
Hi fjn04,
I use the Silver 70 (70 watts) PP amps. You should give the C7’s a try you might like them better. They just weren’t my cup of tea! BTW, my friend uses a 50 watt Rogue tube amp with his P3’s and they sound great. Harbeths are tube friendly. Have fun!
Very nice Yogi. I really liked my V4's. I bet the Silver 70's sound sublime with the P3's.  I will have to read through the archives a bit. A bit quiet around here. Hmmm...
I have had both the C7s and the P3s.  I do think the P3s require a bit more power and control from the amp than the C7s.  In fact, one time as an experiment I tried a 6.5wpc single ended amp.  The C7s sounded pretty good with it, at lower levels of course.  But the P3s really couldn't be driven with it.  The lower sensitivity and the sealed design probably combine to require more power from the amp.  The Croft is very stable, but it is only 45wpc into 8 ohms and 50wpc into 4 ohms.  These power rating will certainly place limits on ultimate volume, and perhaps that's what you're running up against.
Thanks smrex13. I figured with that 2.5 to 3 db difference the C7's would be somewhat easier to drive. I do feel the Croft does nicely with the P3's, and would have no problem recommending the combo. The C7's remain an interesting option...I also have a friend who has experience with both speakers, and he really liked the C7's.
No doubt the Croft is great with the P3s - I've heard it myself and enjoyed it a great deal.  I thought I was making a step up from the P3s to the C7s.  While I certainly got more bass and better dynamics from the C7s (and the beautiful Harbeth midrange) I missed the clarity of the P3s.  That being said, many others would prefer the C7.  And it would be a great match with the Croft.  You'd be able to really turn it loose.