Initial impressions of my new Vandersteen Quatro's in Audi Havana Black


I will post pics when I get more time on them.  I had them delivered and set up by Johnny Rutan of Audio Connections.  He moved them out to the corners of the room and close up against the back wall. I love the look as does my wife.  I also LOVE the HUGE soundstage these things can now throw.  NO SUCK OUT either.  I was shocked at that aspect. I was scared to death when he started them in the corner of the room. I have a very difficult room for bass as it's an open floor plan. I lose a lot of bass on the right channel as it's by a stair case.  I'm putting up a temp wall by the railing.  I am using a screen right now, but I need treatment of some sort still. 

That said, it only has about 30 hours or so and it's already starting to sweeten up.  I'm hearing so many things that I haven't heard in the room before.  I'm hearing bass passages that hasn't been there before.  On one passage of a  Bela Fleck song, the room just moved.  The thing is that I've heard so many of these songs on Wilson's and Magico's and B&W"s and Focals, Paradigms, Legacy's and so many other speakers, but the tonality of the Vandersteen bass is just special.  It's so accurate. What so many don't know is that the way he designed the bass amp, you still have the same sound as YOUR main amp.  Not sure how he does it, but he does.  You don't hear the difference. 


I think that the reason some don't get the Vandersteen's at first listen is because it's not like other speakers.  We aren't used to hearing a speaker that isn't 'hifi' sounding.  Its very organic. To me, it's like analog vs digital.  Both can sound GREAT, but digital is still digital and that's why vinyl and reel to reel are still going strong after all of these years.  Kind of reminds me of a plasma TV vs the LCD TV's when I went to purchase mine.  I was originally taken by the brightest TV's in the showroom, but I keep going back and watching all the Plasma's in the darker room that Magnolia was showing them in.  I wanted the Pioneer, but could only afford the Panasonic's. I have two of them and love them.  People actually ask me why their TV doesn't look as good.  I first ask if they had it calibrated professionally.  The answer is always no and then tell them it's a plasma.  

Set up isn't fun for me, so Johnny does it for me.  I'm digging my new set up and will write more later, but i am Jonesing to go up to the loft to listen some more.  I'm really loving the organic sounds of my system right now.  All genres too which is just awesome.  Not taking any digs at others systems, just loving mine.  We all hear differently and I get that.
ctsooner
@gdnrbob, he probably was using a typical receiver of the day (2CH, maybe 60wpc max, power supply the size of a pack of cigarettes, if that).

I was using real power on my Vandersteen 4's (100 wpc tube amp on mids + treble inputs) & a 200 wpc SS amp on the input for the subs. It got really loud & dynamic, for sure. Still, I never managed to make those speakers sound 2-dimensional, hard, bright, brittle, "accurate," or any of those code-words for unmusical. They always breathed and made music sound quite real.

My technician friend was no doubt used to systems that rattled his privates (boom, boom) and razored his ears off. The 4's could shake the walls, but neither the 2C's nor the 4's were going to become treble cannons.
Dentdog, placement of the Vandersteen semi actives are very very easy. That's why I needed the Quatro.  The bass has that eq and it allows you to set them up where they sound best and then you dial in the bass.  It takes a little time, but it's fairly easy (with two people it's quicker) and sounds GREAT.  Huge difference in a difficult room like mine.
@gdnrbob,

Just to build to @ctsooner's response, upgrading from the Treo to the Quatro CT's is more than just a "speaker upgrade". It's really a system upgrade. Sure, it *is* a better speaker, but you're also now 1) bi-amping your speakers, 2) inserting a pair of powered subs into your room, and 3) EQ'ing those subs to match your listening environment. Most audiophiles upgrade their speakers because they want better sounding speakers - and are willing to pay big bucks for that betterment alone. But with the Quatro CTs, you're also making your amps sound better AND your room sound better. When you take all things into consideration, the price difference between the Treos and the Quatro CTs is easily justifyable.
renter, GREAT way to put it.  I try to say what you said about amp and room, but you are much better than I on the keyboard, lol.  Thanks
Thanks nrenter, tomic and Ctsooner.
My question regarding the upgrade to Quatro's should have included my use of the Vandy 2w's with ct's Treo's. Though I don't have the 'q' factor, I am getting much of the bass that the Quatro would provide- just not as much ability to configure the bass to my room.
I doubt I will be upgrading for a while ( or at least until ctsooner sells me his Quatro's, ;) ). My current configuration gives me all that I want.
Bob