Right On! dave_b
Why pay so much for super high end?
Most speakers costing $50,000+ use Seas, Scan Speak or Accuton.
In DIY forums most speakers designed use bargain drivers and usually are only 2.0 designs not bookshelf or center speakers to complete a surround system.
I’d love to have a Scan Speak 11 speaker system for atmos with 3 way bookshelves, center and floorstanders.
Why aren’t the designs out there and why are you guys pissing away all your money.
Personally I won’t get an upgrade from my speakers unless it’s of this caliber and neither can I afford nor want to donate money to these thieves.
A 3rd party 11 speaker atmos scan Speak system would be nice but I’m not spending $250,000.
Why on earth aren’t there designs out there for this and why do you all piss away your money?
I don’t get why hi fi isn’t all DIY even honest factory direct companies mark up 300%.
Unless you pull in $1+ million a year and don’t have any time I don’t get it.
Are you guys lazy?
Someone easily could design a great crossover and cabinets for everyone and the days of paying over $3,500 for a pair of loud speakers if you got some time or know a friend who could build cabinets would be over. I know of people who could design cabinets that rival $100,000 speakers and cost less than 1% than that. Someone with some experience could easily design a diamond, beryllium and soft dome and various versions for various tastes.
I don’t get it. Speakers are so simple. Crossovers cabinets and drivers.
You guys just throw your money away I don’t understand it why?
In DIY forums most speakers designed use bargain drivers and usually are only 2.0 designs not bookshelf or center speakers to complete a surround system.
I’d love to have a Scan Speak 11 speaker system for atmos with 3 way bookshelves, center and floorstanders.
Why aren’t the designs out there and why are you guys pissing away all your money.
Personally I won’t get an upgrade from my speakers unless it’s of this caliber and neither can I afford nor want to donate money to these thieves.
A 3rd party 11 speaker atmos scan Speak system would be nice but I’m not spending $250,000.
Why on earth aren’t there designs out there for this and why do you all piss away your money?
I don’t get why hi fi isn’t all DIY even honest factory direct companies mark up 300%.
Unless you pull in $1+ million a year and don’t have any time I don’t get it.
Are you guys lazy?
Someone easily could design a great crossover and cabinets for everyone and the days of paying over $3,500 for a pair of loud speakers if you got some time or know a friend who could build cabinets would be over. I know of people who could design cabinets that rival $100,000 speakers and cost less than 1% than that. Someone with some experience could easily design a diamond, beryllium and soft dome and various versions for various tastes.
I don’t get it. Speakers are so simple. Crossovers cabinets and drivers.
You guys just throw your money away I don’t understand it why?
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The point is there should be no 6 figure home audio or even 5. There is no other industry with mark ups like this. The only thing even similar without extensive research and development costs and big mark ups is matresses but home audio makes their mark ups laughable. Some things do have a good amount of Research and development that costs hundreds of millions annualy and do get margins to make up for that like computer processors and graphic processors and projectors and other tech industry stuff but these "high end" home theater and audio companies produces the highest margins of cost to produce that I’m aware of on planet earth on the retail market and on top of that their research and development costs are minimal. Even scan speak and seas and accuton take huge huge margins on their drivers which is amusing and they’re the big 3 suppliers on the market. The kharma Enigma Veyron EV1 at $1.5 million which I haven’t confirmed but I think is still using accuton diamond tweeters and midrange? $1.5 million? If it were considered art I’d say ok but it isn’t art sold at Sotheby’s. No speaker on earth should ever cost more than $4,000 no 7 channel amp more than $4,000 or speaker cable more than $100 for a 10 foot pair. Hopefully one of these days a factory direct speaker company comes out that uses all scan speak illuminstor or seas high end and does what these 7 figure speakers do but not price rape you. |
funaudiofun OP11 posts The point is there should be no 6 figure home audio or even 5.Sorry, but you really don't know what you're talking about. Jewelry, fine dining, travel, clothing ... all have can have markups that equal or exceed that of high end audio. I don't think those things necessarily offer good value, but neither do I insist that no man should spend more than $199 on a suit. |
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BTW, I could see 5 figures for an entire stereo system being a reasonable markup - that's $10k. Not 6 figures. yes, there ar other consumer products with outrageous markups - but most of them are known for the sort of exploitation identified by Thorstein Veblin audio is supposed to be about sound quality |
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