What tube preamp is a step up from Rogue Magnum 99


Hi,

I wanted to try a tube preamp as I think my system sounds a little bit lean.

My local dealer let me take a Rogue Magnum 99 for an in home test.

In my system, the Rogue was an improvement because there was higher resolution and a more live presence (probably a lower noise floor with the separate power supply?) and better bass.

However, I am wondering what other preamps excel in providing a great "live" presence and bass.

I have read about the Cary SLP 98 and the BAT VK 51SE but I do not have access to try these out at home. The reviews seem to single these out as being a little bit warmer than, say, ARC equipment, and they are supposed to do bass well.

While I could purchase the Rogue now I want to avoid the upgrade in the future. I would rather spend more now and definitely move up.

I would appreciate any learned comments to help me out with this decision.

My system is:
Ric Schultz modified Oppo 105,
W4S STP SE Preamp
W4S ST1000 Amplifier
Cullen Cables
Maggie 3.6 Speakers

Thanks!
dsper
I'm a Rogue fan too, but frankly I'm uninterested in a new 3K+ preamp that uses a quad of 12AU7, as their RP5 does. Seems they haven't done any new flagship-level tube stuff since the Apollo.

The 6H30 based Hera (Athena too) works magic in my system -- no lack of musicality there. There was no question when I swapped a Hera I in for my 99 Magnum 5 years ago -- the 99 went up for sale immediately. The Renaissance III was a worthy challenger, and very musical, but in the end I felt the Hera was more detailed and tonally accurate. I still miss the MM stage in that Ren III though; that was a GREAT built-in phono stage.
Thank you for the responses!

My continuing saga.

I take the Rogue Magnum 99 back to my local dealer and ask him what he considers a step up from the Rogue that I could try as an in home audition. He suggests that I might try an ARC LS26 that has just come in on trade. He also points out an Asethetix Janus but the number of tubes (12) sort of scares me away.

We talk a while and he asks me if I want to consider an amplifier change in addition to, or rather than, a preamp change. He says that I will not know how it sounds until I try. He points out a pair of Classe CAM200 monoblocks that had come in on trade and said maybe I would like to try them.

So...I take home the Classe CAM 200's plus the ARC LS26 preamp.

I get home and ask myself where should I start? I decide to switch out my W4S ST1000 for the Classe monoblocks thinking it would be easier than switching out the preamp (it was not) plus I was interested to see what would happen with an amp change.

Well, my oh my - surprise!

The Classe CAM 200's completely changed the sound of my system. It was definitely warmer, there was better depth of field, and the bass had more texture but with less slam than what I hear with the W4S ST1000. There seemed to be more live presence/detail as well, which I suppose is due to the signal to noise of 135 dbl for the Classe monoblocks. I think that this also tells me that the W4S STP SE is very quiet as well.

In short, I think that the Classe monoblcoks could be an improvement and I ought to hang onto the W4S pre a while longer while I go down the amp rabbit hole.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
Yea,
Just kill yourself now....

I'm Kidding.I just bought the new Rogue RP-1 with the Rogue ST-100 power amp.I did not want to spring for the RP-5 but, now I'm looking to buy the 5.
Lastly,my comment.Rouge Audio is a very good value for the money.Pretty hard to beat unless you are willing to spend more money.
That being said, you can improve your system by spending more.
Good Luck.

Regards,Tom
Um.. try the ARC pre with the Rogue. Then maybe try other power amps. Ditch the Classe. Too warm and soft.