"I have to try to hear Denon now somewhere, since I heard a Yammy already..." (Gonglee3)
Remember, that when you are listening to a receiver, you are not just simply listening to THE RECEIVER ALONE! You are hearing a SYSTEM - which is comprised of many other parts, especially the associated speakers. So, a notice to all audio novies out there. You cannot simply judge the sonic merits of a piece on it's own, outside of the rest of the system it's attached to! For the record... |
My Yahama RXV-1 just died last year. One by one, the channels went out within the last 6 months. First one of the surround channel, then the two front channels, then the subwoofer, and then the center channel. I bought it new and only had it for less than 8 years. I only used it to watch movies. The one I had before that, the DSP E-1000 lasted 10 years without incident. I took mine to a trusted repair center. The answer I got after paying $200 was that Yamaha doesn't have any parts for this model anymore.
I had my eye set on the Denon AVR 4308CI until I saw what Integra (glorified Onkyo) has to offere. I was in the process of pulling the trigger to buy the Denon online when the mailman came. I went to grab the mail and saw the Integra on the cover of the Hometheater magazine. I ended up reading about it and decided to go take a look at it in the store. It's a beast! The only thing is that you can't buy it online, and it's a hot commodity, so expect to pay retail at $2400. But if I have to choose between Denon and Yamaha. I go with Denon.
FrankC |
Thanks to all who took the time - words of experience no doubt. Especially to Flrnlamb for the detail reponse! They will certainly help me decide on the future choices ! |
HOWEVER, in all fairness, in the right application, it has been my experience that the entry level Yamaha's make simply excellent preamp/processors, as stand-alone units, while you drive the pre-out's with outboard amplifiers! The sound here has most favorably been very clear, extended, detailed, sound, matched with much stronger dynamics and bass impact and balance, etc, when configured as such! (on their own, however, most budget receivers are confined to driving small monitors as "small", with limited dynamic power output, otherwise.
I have set up several systems using Yamaha's $500-$1000 AV receivers, using them as strictly processor/preamps in HT/music systems, mated with 5 channel amplifiers, to GREAT EFFECT, over the years! Very nice sound, I would say for what it is. This is exactly how I have my HT setup and it sounds absolutely fantastic. Yamaha has been, and still is, a leader in surround HT soundfield. They have been able to create a realistic/consistent L-R/Front-Back effect as the object moves across the screen. My preferred setting is the enhanced Dolby Surround with the 2 front effect speakers completing the picture. Even used as a preamp connected to a 2ch poweramp using the "Straight/Direct" out(no processor), it sounds pretty decent as a preamp. |
I am no expert but I have had both and like the first reply, the Denon has worked out better for me. Oddly enough, I am currently, in my personal circle, surrounded by Denon as two close friends have the 5308 and the 3808, my sister has has a 2808 for a 18+ months now and I am running a Denon 4308 to my main amp. Three out of the four of us have had Yamaha before. If you can find a shop with both, take some of your fav CD's and give em a go!
Good luck,
Blu :-) |
