Enough SET Power for Rock and Roll


I'm still trying to figure out what SET amp would sound best for Rock and Roll (and other music but especially Rock) on Klipsch Cornwall II speakers (101dB efficiency) in a room about 18x13 (with kind of medium acoustics - not live, not totally dead.) On a Marantz 2230 (which sounds very good, surprisingly good for being ~35 years old and 30 watts of solid state) I found that when I crank up the Rock and Roll on the Cornwalls I'm listening from about 89dB to 97db, but frankly if I wasn't worried about clipping or blowing out the speakers or receiver I could probably enjoy an occassional 100 dB :) - but if I have to live at 97 dB and below I could. (Measurements made with a Radio Shack meter set on fast, C weighting - taken from 1 meter away from the speakers, and also at the main seating position which is about 10-11 feet from the speaker plane.)

From many posts here and over on AudioAsylum it sounds like a 45 SET amp would sound great but might not have enough oomph - although that isn't 100% certain. It seems that a 2A3 SET amp would have a better chance of handling the loud music and the "complexities?" of Rock (and orchestra music) vs. say simple instrumentals and vocals. Next up would be a 300B SET, more power but some people seem to think it gives away some of the "magic" of the 2A3 and especially the 45. It isn't so clear to me from reading the various posts how any of these tube types do on the low end; I think low end (reasonably deep and tight) is needed to do Rock and Roll well - but so is good midrange and highs, so it's a balance, of course.

What do you think, more power and listen loud with ease, ie go with a 300B, or can a 2A3 or possibly a 45 do it all? Or is it possible that SET just can't do Rock and Roll seriously with 101db speakers in a 18x13 rom? In which case, next up is what kind of tube amp? If SET makes sense, I'd like to give it a try but I don't want to push physics or the budget too hard with experiments that aren't likely to work.

Thanks!
hi_hifi
Jet,
In all honesty I'm not a fan of loud music ,recorded or live. A few weeks ago my wife and I went to a bar featuring live electric blues. It was just too loud and unenjoyable for the entire group of us. I know some like it cranked up this way and more power to them. I visit jazz venues far more often (usually unamplified) 95-100db is still loud. I don't need or want this volume at home on a regular basis. Personal preference for sure.
Charles
The easy test is if you can turn up the volume and things are in fact much louder but do not seem to be, that’s a good sign. You can tell by how well you can hear other sounds in the room at same level with volume down then up, like someone talking to you.

My Bel Canto Class D amps (lots of NF, high damping factor) do this quite well despite those things usually working against it "in theory".     Class D amps are a different breed for sure.

Also happens often in live concerts where you don’t realize how loud teh music is until you try to talk to someone.
I just think people hear in all manner of different ways. At live venues I can readily realize the volume has increased without having to engage in the talk test. Good discussion.
Charles
I haven't been posting as much as I used to because I realized when I would render opinions I started to think they have very little real meaning since as Charles says and I agree, we all hear differently. We all have different systems, rooms, cables, musical preferences. It's no different in this thread. Rock music sounds a certain way in my room. I can describe it as good but if twenty people came for a listen only about 5 might like it.

The absolute sound is truly a pipedream.   Most likely no two people would agree even if they heard it.

I do believe though that there are best practices to be followed in assembling a system that facilitates getting to the best sound possible  for most anyone faster than otherwise.