The issue of lowballing... What does that mean?


I LOVE Audiogon. I have purchased and sold many items here and it is a wonderful resource for audio nuts of every variety. Big solid state, tubes, analog, vinyl? Sure it all goes.

So I see posts that are make offer but the seller says "lowballers" will be ignored, vilified, cursed and cussed. So why have a make offer sale? Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn't matter what you paid for it, or how much you love it. And why be upset? Declining requires one mouse click. Countering maybe five or six clicks or keystrokes. Just curious as this is a commerce site.

I have received offers that seemed really low to me, but I am still happy to have interest and I always counter offer. I recently sold a Clearaudio TT for a lot less than I thought it was worth. But all the offers were low and I had to rethink my view. It ultimately sold as a real bargin but I'm happy and so is the buyer.

Your thoughts?
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Even If all lowballers  encountered are of a particular race that does not mean all or even most of that race.are also lowballers.   It serves no purpose and adds no value other than to promote racism i.e. Judging people based solely on race.  So there is no justification for suggesting it be tolerated.   Sorry.  


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So I've re-noticed something recently which is probably old hat to most here, but...

Price is relative, right? Like, I may look at a good Easton or Worth baseball bat priced at $399 and think, "Umm, that's way too expensive." Or I may think about getting a dedicated gaming laptop, but balk at the $899 price tag. Or worry if I'm paying too much for a new Shop-Vac when I could get a better deal at Ye Olde Big Box store.

But I'll cheerfully Watch and even Make Offer on a $2000 piece of ho-end equipment after researching and/or hearing it. That much would pay for the Easton, the gaming laptop, and the Shop-Vac - with some change to spare, and yet that perspective is skewed when it comes to stuff on Audiogon - whether I'm buying or selling.

I'm toying with getting an Oppo 105 and since most of them are in the $850 range, I'd honestly feel guilty if I bid anything under $700. Like, I;d feel obligated to send a note of explanation with the bid. Same with things I'm selling, especially if I've done the Bluebook research.

I'm glad Agon has that 55% Lowball cut-off, though I think that's much too low. If someone offered me 55% of my asking price, their bid would be ignored without a doubt.
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You have no idea of my intent nor do you have any idea of who and what kind of person i am therefore [since you do not like others opinions!] KEEP YOURS TO YOURSELF.I call em like i live em and I'm not about to stop at your naiveness...

sign of the times...Something for nothing crowd WITH AN ATTITUDE!
Thirteen years on the Gon and yes the slide has started about three years ago...
One ethnic group seems to take a particular pleasure in EXTREME lowballing or ,perhaps, they have no soul!
There, i said what a lot of you are thinking...:-)
Truth in the statement that a repost with "no offers" may eliminate SOME of the problems but still you will get those that don't read the ad for information before asking stupid questions already answered in the ad!
I've commented many times, haggling and low ball are part of most cultures.  If you travel to Asia, Europe, So America ... nobody pays full price.

If it's a lowball offer, just ignore it.   What's the big deal??  Remember internet has no boundaries and when you list something, it's a business and not a hobby.  .

Recently I sold an expensive PC, 2 offers in 1st day from CA and not Spanish speaking.  1st offer was very low so I ignore and 2nd was better, I countered and we agreed on a deal.   

That’s what’s wrecking this country...the inability to tell it like it is. Other cultures laugh at our political correctness. Grow a pair! I think you need to stay out of the proverbial kitchen if you are so easily offended.

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