Wilson Maxx 2 vs Sonus Faber Stradivari


I listened to the Maxx and SF Elipsa before, but not to the SF Strad. However competition for the Maxx is probably the Strad and definitely not Elipsa. What I like about Sonus Faber design is the soulfulness. The Strad also has 4-ohm impedance with 92 dB sensitivity, meaning no need to replace my Pass XA60.5 which I very and very much enjoy. Does anybody have comment on those 2 speakers as to price to performance advantage? Secondly would it be too much to drive pretty Strad with the more gentle side of amplification such as Pass Labs design and Acoustic Zen Satori speaker cable.
spatine
Lloydelee21, I very much appreciate the detail comparison of various speakers and amps. I decided to put up with the drive and did some audition. These speakers so drastically varied in performance depending on everything else, even with the "best" of each brand of associated equipment. I did check specific models, and these dealers knew to connect the best supporting equipment for these speakers (Stradivari, Maxx 3, and Sasha which replaced the Watt/Puppy)

I tried the Strad with a mixed of Linn and McIntosh equipment. It sounded so boomy. With all Linn equipment, the Strad sounded considerably cleaner but was dry. The Strad seemed to perform best with all tube McIntosh setup. It sounded somewhat more vivid than my Pass/Prelude MTS but definitely did not warrant the money. Don't make any judgment yet.

Moving on to Wilson speakers, the Maxx 3 was driven by Theta amp with Theta CD player, and it definitely did not come alive, sounded far worst than Maxx 2 driven by BAT that I heard a couple years ago. The funny thing was that the Sasha sounded better than Maxx 3 because Ayre MXR drove it. Now the store owner did tell me that Maxx 3 required at least 400W/channel because of its woofer. So the MXR did not have enough power to drive the Maxx.

I came home with about the same thinking as before doing the road trip. The Prelude MTS does edge out Sasha, but I do understand that Pass XA.5 series amp. is such a superior Class A amp. So my XA60.5 monoamp. can definitely cause the bias. Now there is no way that Maxx 3 truly sounds worse than Maxx 2 or Sasha. It's because of the equipment mismatch. Maxx 2/BAT definitely has that extreme wide bandwidth. I somewhat felt like I was in a live performance. But I just don't know if that means Maxx 2 is a better speaker design than Stradivari. McIntosh tube preamp. and amp. might not be the best equipment to drive the Strad.

The surprise about the whole road trip did not come from the trip intent. At one of these dealers, I listened to the McIntosh tube monoamp. driving Snell A7 Illusion. The soundstage just came alive, from classical to rock music. The mid range, specific singing voice, coming from the Snell was so real, as if the singer was right there in front of my eyes. The strings and contrast between music segments was so vivid. I did listen to a lot of equipmetn through the years, and none of them have that vividness for the orchestra strings. Base authority was fine. I actually drove away not wanting Wilson nor Sonus Faber but the Snell Illusion specifically.
Spatine,

Thanks for your comments. Sorry for your disappointment. Such is the roadtrip of audiophiles in search of great sound. Speaking for the 2 speakers you heard, I found Maxx's to sound great with ARC equipment, and 'ok' with Krell (unless the Evo One)..particularly if soulful is what you are looking for. Again, the Maxx 2 comes at music from the technical end. I have found the Strad to be good with tubes (many love McIntosh with Strad) and good with SS A (Soulution, FM Acoustics, Gryphon, etc). It is not the most transparent speaker...I have compared with electrostatics, Wilson, and they do not have quite that transient snap/attack. But they deliver vocals really well, and have enuf detail for some people.
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I have not heard these Snells. They sound intriguing to say the least. Good luck and pls post when you've made your choice! Enjoy!!
Very different speakers, same class I suppose, personal taste is the main factor for deciding!
Hi Spatine

Unfortunately what you have heard in your hifi shop trip is typical of the " hit & miss" affair of listening to systems at shops. Sometimes you get the great sound, sometimes you don't.

I own Strad's and run them with both Mac tube gear and cj tube gear.

The Mac tube gear sounds great and is not boomy at all - however it is a little slower in delivery due to the mid hall delivery of the electronics.

I have recently gone back to cj tube gear and the sound is better again. I little more control and life, mainly due to the fact the amplifiers are a bit more forward in the vocal delivery and feel faster. Purity is at an alltime high with this combo.

Personally I feel that the Strad's have plenty of detail and transparency for me and an organic feel that really allows me to attach to the music better than other speakers I have heard.
They can be seen as a little lean in the bass compared to the Wilson's, (definataly not boomy) so for my big room adding a REL subwoofer adds a nice sense of ease in the dynamic bass delivery that is pleasing overall to enjoyng music.

BTW, the pass labs XA60.5 wil be fine, however like any big speaker like this - going to 160.5 would be evern more heavenly.

good luck in your search.
Hi Shane...

Have u broken 300 hours yet? I have placed everything on new equipment rack...3" thick birch ply with black african sapele veneer and piano gloss finish. It sits decoupled on top of 1.5" slab of slate. Wow...took 4 guys to carry it. But it made the Gryphon less dark, added lots more detail, deepened soundstage and dropped the bass half an octave and cleaned it up. I was genuinely surprised in spite of everything I'd read about equipment racks and their benefits...fortunately it cost a LOT less than the reference brands...finite, HRS, and others I've considered.

Loving the Strads more now...that said, I was considering changes my cables to lighten up the system a touch...but now I want it to settle in before I try. If I do...any thoughts? I have old pre-XL Ref interconnects and speaker cables.

Your advice always appreciated!!!