Kef vs Thiel

kef. i have a pair of kef reference 2 in my rec room and i preferred these to the thiels that i auditioned. kef's are a warmer speaker whereas the thiel were more on the cool side, less midrange and bottom end. if you are looking for speakers, i would expand your search and listen to Totem. i currently use the mani 2's in my listening room and (IMO) these speakers sound more musical than any kef's or thiels i have listened to. (i have auditioned the kef reference 4 along with the smaller and all the way up to the larger thiel's). good luck

Apples and Oranges.
"More musical."
"Warmer."

Skater you say you have a system that "can handle Thiels" but what do you mean by that? What source(s) and amp are you using?

KEF and Thiel are very far apart in design goals and sonic characteristics; that's why this thread, in its current form, will get you alphabet soup for responses.

Do you want accuracy or euphony?

Stevecham,
For many of us...Accuracy = Euphony

OK, have mixed responses. You are right, apples and oranges. Both are good at what they do. I'm looking for something with an accurate image. This system will comprise of a Prima Luna pre-amp, modified Proceed Amp2 (normally they sound very bright, but I've gotten rid of that and the highs are very smooth), and still banging around what CD player to use. I'm leaning toward the Thiels though. I listened to them on a Hovland preamp and they came alive!

If you stay with KEF, you will most likely have a similar sound to what you currently enjoy. What I mean is that since they are in the same family, they will have some Going to Thiels will most likely cause you to start changing other components in your system. ;-) Thiels are very revealing of the rest of the system. I've had my 3.6 for over 8 years. I've had major changes in my system during that time, and the Thiels never failed to deliver.

Not that the 3.6 does not have its shortcomings. One of the things that I've noticed is some congestions in the upper bass, lower midrange area. There's an article in the Hong Kong Audio magazine on how to "tweak" your speakers to counter this effect which require some surgery on the speakers. Another option is to get a pair of Sound Anchor's base for these speakers. I have the older style which wrapps around the base of each speaker. They are very effective alleviating the "congestion" problem and also tightens up the bass. A friend of mine just borrowed them to try in his system and he said that they made more improvement than any of the over $1k speaker cables he had been auditioning.

FrankC