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Speaker disappearing act?

There's new $25k per pair speaker, that according to everyone who matters, disappears? I've heard this disappearing act before, but what, if any does it have to do with the quality of the sound? If you're blind, or close your eyes when you listen to music, does that eliminate the need for a total disappearing act? I know what they mean by speakers "disappearing" but can it be overkill in the descriptive sense, considering there are oodles of other factors that are important in describing a speaker/quality of sound. Have you ever listened to a pair of speakers that are drop dead amazing, but when you open your eyes they may not be the purest "disappearing" act you thought? Does that matter?
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launche, thanks for the reply. I totally agree with you its my room. I just dont know what else I can do. I have fiddled with speaeker and seating position. Nothing seems to help my soundstage height issue. The one thing I want to try is some absoprtive material on the back wall behind the speakers. In my friends setup, he has a large curtain but no other room treatments. The otherr difference is that his speakers are at least 3-4 feet further away from the back wall than mine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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In my friend's setup, the soundstage is taller than his speakers.

What speakers does your friend have?

As I described earlier on this thread, you simply can't expect a large 3 way BE-10 to disappear as well as Crowbar describes the Gallo Micro. However the Gallo Micro won't produce the timbre, dynamics or anywhere near the accuracy, range or SPL of the BE-10. I'd take the BE-10 any day.
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Shadorne, my friend has the Avalon Ceramique speakers, smaller but no necessarily small speakers. I am convinced it is my room.
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What are the dimensions of your room and your relative seating position? Are they any additional room treatments besides what's shown in your photo. I have not heard your speakers but am puzzled as to why your soundstage/imaging is as subpar as you state. Has anyone else notice what you notice?
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Launche, yes my friends have noticed that while the sound is great, the soundstage seems low and not very deep. In amost every system I have heard, the soundstage is a few feet above the speakers. The only other think I can think about is that my components have not broken in yet. The amps and speakers are only a few months old with not too many hours on them.

As for my room, the width is about 14 ft (my speakers are along this wall). The lenght is about 20 ft. The speakers are about 6 ft apart and I can sit anywhere from 0 ft to 15 ft away. The speakers are about 4 ft from the back wall (measured from the front baffle). I do not have any room treatments other than the 8th Nerve pieces you see in the corners.

To be honest I do not believe its an issue with room treatments. I dont think treatments can help my soundstage but maybe I am wrong.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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