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HELP...Bubble Wrap Marks in PIANO BLACK Speakers??

I just purchased a pair of Piano Black speakers here on Audiogon. I received them today (9/12/06) nicely packed and carefully wrapped with bubble wrap. As I unpacked & unraveled the bubble wrap from each speaker, I noticed the bubble wrap left round shaped dot marks on the Piano Black finish of each speaker. It is not something that can be felt with the finger, so I thought it would wash off easily.

I tried cleaning with water, Windex & Orange BLAST Auto/Shop degreaser. Nothing worked. Then I tried Liquid Glass auto polish and Zymol cleaner wax. Still, I can't remove the bubble wrap markings. I even tried 70% rubbing alcohol in a tiny back corner. That did not work either.

I'm getting a bit nervous now, since these speakers were stored several months in this wrapping and they're all covered with the marks like leopard spots. I don't know if the marks will come out now, or how the Seller will respond to this. He is aware of the marks, but not that I can't get them out. I'd really like to remove the marks and to keep the speakers. Does anyone have suggestions for a cleaner for this?
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bigbucks5
184 posts
 
This may be of no relevance, but...

My Verdier Platine TT is piano black, and when I had the armboard drilled, we used a paper towel wrapped around the armboard to protect it while we were using a vise and drill press.

Soon as we removed the armboard, we noticed that there were marks on the armboard corresponding to the small bumps on the paper towel. These could not be felt or polished out, but the next day they were all gone. It seems the piano finish as used on the Verdier table tends to absorb moisture from items contacting it, and given a chance to air dry, the moisture evaporated from the finish.

You might want to carefully try a hair drier on low heat to see if it has any effect.

Hope this is your problem.
ptheo
72 posts
 
I have wrapped my piano black Apogee speakers twice in plastic wrap in the past(when purchased used from audiogon member & house remodel) with no problems. The plastic does leave a temporary swirl like mark in a few spots but after a cleaning with Windex there look like new! I think the bubble wrap might have had some sort of residue on it that left the permanent marks on the speakers. What brand/model are they? VMPS RM40? Good luck!
merganser
216 posts
 
STOP! Don't try anything else on your speakers. You have what are called "pack marks" in the trade and the only way to remove them is to buff them out. A buffing/polishing machine is best, but it can be done by hand. I'd start with 3M Imperial Microfinishing Compound-Liquid. If that doesn't get them out you'll have to step down to 3M Super Duty Rubbing Compound, but try not to go there. Finish with 3M Foam Polishing Pad Glaze. If at all possible have this done by a refinishing/restoration shop for the best results.
jtgofish
490 posts
 
Bubble wrap is abrasive.It is a mongrel thing for marking like this. The same thing happened to a dining table I sent to the other side of the world.
You need to consult an auto spray painter.They might be able to buff the marks out with a cutting compound.Otherwise a respray is needed.
umaasa
23 posts
 
I had a similar problem and I used 3M Imperial Microfinishing glaze that contains no silicone or wax..
Part No. 05992

This is not always available but try to check this out with a car store.
It is a little bit pricey and if you cannot obtain it, and all others failed, let me know.. I may be able to give you a small amount..
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