low cost integrated amp for newbie


I'd like some advice on a low-cost integrated amp for a starter system. Under $300 would be my preference. Used is fine. I wouldn't call myself an audiophile (yet?) but I appreciate good design & quality sound. So far the only audiophile piece I've got is a NAD 4300 tuner, purchased at the advice of a co-worker who was determined to woo me into the realm of high-quality audio gear.

I was running the tuner through my old Sansui RZ-5000 receiver which is gradually losing its functionality (thus the tuner purchase in the first place). It was limping along until my most recent move. Now it cannot transmit to either left speaker channel, so I'm on a mono system at the moment. The receiver has always been a nuisance to use, even when it worked properly. The design and quality of NAD feels like a breath of fresh air after dealing with such cumbersome equipment. I want more like it.

I listen to lots of talk radio, folk, blues, and electronica. Sometimes from the internet, usually the airwaves. Of course I play CDs too, but maybe only 1/4 of the time. I seldom play anything terribly loud as I have a small house with oak floors. I'd rather have speakers in every room than blast the volume from one spot.

My current speakers are JBL ("JBL82," they say on the inside plate), circa mid-1980s. I have no idea how they compare to anything else quality-wise, I inherited them from a friend. They sound okay. Not amazing, not bad, but okay. Eventually they'll probably go, too.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts, or feel free to point me to existing threads.
ann
I find it hard to think any knowledgeable Agoner would suggest anything under $400 in a integrated amp will sound like most recievers! Ann wants to grow in the hobby and will hear a difference. The NAD C340 or C350 sound more musical than any Sony reciever at double, even triple the price new. I have never heard anything Sony (non ES) to be more musical than a NAD product near the same money. The NAD will also allow a better match to speakers choosen in the future since good budget speaker units tend to offer lots of detail, the cheap Sony amps would sound horrible on them. The NAD units are a bit rolled off in the highs (C340 and C350, not the 320BEE). This would suit your JBLs well also. The soundstaging of the NAD units will do vocals very well indeed as the NADs do have a "fuller sounding" soundstage than many thin sounding receivers. You can get a used C340 or C350 for under $300, maybe even $225 or a demo C320BEE at QAudio for $319. You don't need a reciever obviously since you have a nice tuner. Stick with the NAD.
Ann,
A used Acurus DIA-100 is hard to beat. I saw one on the site here for $325. (new was $1000+) One of the audio magazines said it was the best $1000 you could spend on audio.
I had one and it served its purpose well during it's time.
Yes, there are other good choices too, but this is definitly one.
Good luck!
I'll try to get a used or refurbished NAD C370 integrated. That is definitely better than your usual Sony, Harman, etc., receiver.
I've already seen the NAD C320BEE used for $300 on Audiogon. This is a no-brainer. Simple, easy to find and cheap. If you upgrade later will be easy to sell. Go man!!
Although I don't have a specific recommendation (no recent experience with the catagory), I completely agree with your plan of action: You need an integrated right now - you already have a better tuner on hand, and your speakers can wait 'til the next step since they are functioning as intended. It is simply not true that you will not be able to hear differences - even at your price point and with your old speakers - between various receivers or more audiophile-oriented integrated amps. Low-priced gear exhibits just as wide a range of sonic variation as does high-priced gear, maybe even more, though it is of course generally more flawed overall; the only impediment to hearing this fully will be your less-revealing wires and speakers, but they won't render the differences meaningless by any stretch. When I was in the audio retail business, many inexperienced listeners could easily pick up on differences between lower-end amplification options even when powering modest-but-decent small speakers - often to their great surprise (they just hadn't ever really listened before - hadn't thought they could or needed to). Welcome to the site (and to the hobby?), I hope you enjoy whatever you get out of it, including your new amp.