Who says cables don't make a difference?

Not only most folks, not even most systems at CES use $6k interconnects! Let alone $12k! I would wager its way less than 10%, maybe even less than 5%. Heck it may even be less than 1%! The typical room at CES I would wager is running interconnects that retail for under $2500.

So to be using this random walking around story to show how excellent these are, its like some guy saying his DIY sounds better than the freebie patch cord that came in the box. Sorry, but its that silly.

What you ought to have said is he took his $6k interconnects into rooms with $10k Synergistic, $15k Nordost, and $20k Binford Bombast. Or whatever. Anything but some random CES rooms. With room runners. Haven’t been to CES in a while. Now they have runners. Like at Wimbledon? Good one.

But until we have the ability to prove otherwise, the fact is that your position that one can "hear the difference" is fundamentally where this position starts and ends.

Right. Exactly. We can hear the difference. Period. Why you then go on and on with all that rhetoric about objectivity and measurements is beyond me. Surely you see how it only weakens your case?

Too late. Its simply not possible to ever recover from having so totally blown it. You might as well have said, "I’m Joe Biden’s husband, Joe Biden!" Just no possible way to ever recover from such a blunder. You can only go from hilarious to pathetic. Mission accomplished!

Then again it may be due to nothing more than garden variety lack of listening skills.  

I've written many times before about how when I first went component shopping back around 1991 I could not hear any difference between CD players and transports. One time I brought my Magnavox CDB650 to Definitive and they let me compare side by side with a $5k Wadia. Sounded the same to me. Another time about a week later same store a guy drove up from Portland to audition two CD players and was right there and we listened to both and he said sorry but they sound the same to me! 

This went on for months, me struggling to figure out what it is people are hearing. Until one day I come home after having been to Definitive, put on a CD, and its Michael Ruff Poor Boy which is a superb Sheffield tube recording and it suddenly hits me THIS IS IT! Finally I make the connection! 

From then on, in seemingly no time at all, it was easier and easier to hear differences between all kinds of things. Not just components and wires and cones but recordings. 

Hand in hand with this improvement in listening skills was the ability to be able to say how the sounds are different. Looking back on it, the words actually came first. Reading Robert Harley has a whole section in his book. But its one thing to read about grain, how it can be coarse or fine, all gradations clear and pristine and then on to liquid and then on to syrupy, but its quite another to actually make the connection in your mind to realize what these things really do mean. 

So I have said before and will continue to say until contrary evidence comes along that the people who think there's no difference, well they are right. For them there is no difference. Until they learn to differentiate there never will be. Because its not a matter of psychology, or opinion. Its a question of skill. And skills can be learned. If you want to be a good listener, its a skill you can learn. If you want to. But you do have to make the effort.

Miller, that you would even create this thread to me just shows insecurity about your position.

Uh, he didn’t create this thread. 

Hilarious.

I am so happy that I believe what I see and hear, rather than listen to others who try to say I should deny those things. That I must live by their rules because they define the rules for others, and doing otherwise is denying the truth, according to them. They must define what truth is for us, some of them seem very desperate to make us see thus truth, as if their truth will unravel if not. We should be the sheeple to their temple of truth. I’m happy with just being me, not sure why they’re so insistent we must be them

Lots of reasons, but its like with power cords, the reasons why they make a difference matter nowhere near as much to us as the fact they do make a difference. The designer on the other hand, in order to come up with better designs it does usually help to understand why these things work.
So in the same way it really doesn't matter why some of these people act the way they do. Why matters more to the psychoanalyst or whoever may be trying to see if they can get them to work better. For us the only thing that matters is they do not in fact work very well. 

It can reach a point where everyone has tried pretty much everything they can think of, and the choice is either learn to be a psychoanalyst or move on to putting your time and energy to where it might actually do some good. In other words if they can't be persuaded to come around, or maybe aren't even mentally capable of understanding the need, then sometimes the best thing we have left is to politely ignore and move on.

We are the ones spending our money for our personal enjoyment. Not sure why some feel the need to try to convince us it’s bogus. You’re not spending their money, nor asking them to either.

Bingo!
One reason I hate this double-blind debate so much is its so unbelievably misguided. There's a time and a place for everything. Some guy like Ted Denney or Keith Herron, both of whom do use double-blind testing, they have a reason and they use it correctly. The idea, which I know for sure in the case of Keith who I talked to about this, is to test and see if there is any preference at all, and if so which way. These test subjects do not even know what is being compared or tested all they do is indicate whether they prefer one or the other or no difference. 

In this case testing is justified and valid because the goal is to develop a result a wide range of people will like. So it only makes sense to test a wide range of people. 

The situation with cables is completely different. Its one person buying one cable for themselves. What does that person care for the opinion of some random interboob?