Who has Luv for the Lyngdorf 2170 and is thinking about the 3400.


Hello All,
I’m coming up on 40 yrs in this hobby,and or obsession of ours,and I started with a pair of Khorns and Macintosh at the age of 12 and Offcourse owned a ton of different gear over the yrs.
I bought a 2170 a little more than 6 months ago and I enjoyed it so much that I quickly realized I don’t really need anything else,solid state,tubes,or even dac’s anymore.I could step off that silly merry go round of amplification and just enjoy music.I was able to utilize the extra money and time and put together a really great sounding network audio system that rivaled the best in analog that I have ever had,I was mainly a analog guy all of these yrs but finally gave it up,I even sold my longtime record collection of 3k records which included many Hot Stampers that I purchased and also several that I found on my own.

So who Luv’s the 2170 and is maybe also thinking about the new 3400.

Happy Listening,
Kenny.

kdude66

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Like @uberwaltz I was in the market to downsize to a <10000$ SS integrated from my current setup of tube monoblocks.
I had zeroed in between the Luxman or an Accuphase class A integrated. But this thread has made me curious about the Lyngdorf and I am getting an in-house demo next week of the 2170.

It would be comparing it to my 300b SET amps, am super-excited to see how it goes.
Just got an in house demo of 2170 today.

Wow! I am blown away. It has changed my entire notion of my audiophile journey and preconceptions: tubes, a sweet spot, separate components, speaker positioning -- they all seem so unnecessary. 

All that audiophilia bugs itching all the time. All gone. Just get a Lyngdorf and keep listening to the music from (gasp!) any part of your room.

It was too good, beat my 300b system in every single way except the sweet midrange on my favorite Mingus tune (goodbye pork pie hat).

Think I will be selling my tubey-stuff and placing an order for a 3400 soon.
Uggh! My dealer who gave me a home demo for the 2170 (which blew my mind and made me take out the checkbook) is quoting $8939 for 2170 and $11900 for the 3400!! (I live in India now, where custom duties are high (18%), but not this high). Kind of sucks when an importer gets this greedy.
Reminds me of the Accuphase/(former) Luxman dealers in USA.

Might get one from a friend traveling to Europe sometime this summer. Which means a long wait. sigh!
@cal3713 

Really looking forward to your comparison against the 300b franks. I own a pair too, and am wanting to replace it with the 3400.
Any chance anyone here has a 3400 and wants to give us all feedback? (especially if you were formerly a tube guy).
I just got my 3400 delivered. Sounds great out of the box, although not as good as the used 2170 I got a home demo for (guessing it needs to be broken in).

At some point will compare them to my Coincident Frankensteins Mk2. (Cal, like @charles1dad, I would love to hear more about your 3400 experience).

Meanwhile can some tell me how long is the break in time for the 3400s (or your 2170s that you own).


I have had my Lyngdorf 3400 for about a month now.

Its super convenient, but it has yet to wow me (except for the great bass).

I don't hear the warmth, texture, and feel like I am losing the realness and palpability and you are there moment of my tubes.

I sometimes find it a bit harsh on the highs and have to go from "Neutral" to "Relaxed" in EQ often.

The room correction had subtle effects, brought the music a bit together, but still very very subtle, so not very necessary in my room.

Initially it was quite bad, and needed break-in although the dealer said Digital amplification needs no break-in.

So far it's better than mid-fi SS but not by a lot, for me no superlatives yet, think Accuphase or Luxman could beat this amp. But for the price it is very good.

I am not giving up yet. I am going to try power cords, cleaner power, and perhaps change of speaker cables.

Perhaps it could also be because my speakers (specifically designed for tubes, Devore O96) might not be the right fit for this amp. I will try the pre-out and connect to my Coincident Frankenstein 300b to see if this theory pans out.

Will update more as things progress.

Cheers!


@shkong78 Do please report back with your findings. Perhaps you and I are having the same problem (speaker mismatch).
I have to say, my findings match with the review.

I am trying to quote my prev impressions of the 3400 (the post I cannot find, since this thread is 14 pages long) and bring my thoughts about the 3400 to a closure.

The 3400 paired to my 300b SET tube amps are the best sound I have had in my system so far.

My speakers (Devore O96) doesn't like SS, so the 3400 as a standalone didn't work for me. Bypassing its amp section worked like magic though.

As always YMMV.