Vibration Issues / Turntable Decisions

Ahhh...

Forget anything I ever posted, as @ toddverrone  knows me better than I know myself.

Maybe, I'll (PM) @toddverrone regarding any other issue I'm thinking about. Hopefully, this measure will make it clear to all who subscribe to @toddverrone thinking, will have a say in what (he) thinks should happen with any future post I make.

At every issue I tried to address with the Op, I never received any response.

@toddverrone, why do you chose to say" "you either drink too much or need to get laid"?

I’m not "mad", I’m just passionate.

Without knowing me, you have created an "impassionate expressive description" of a person you don’t know, yet somehow feel a need to make public that I’m a "basket case".

I don’t know why you feel this (need), but it is over the line in the context of these discussions.

Your posts have diverted the attention from the OP’s post.


Having said that, I don’t know why my post regarding how I dealt with my support structure is now being a reference by the OP to another poster as something he’s considering!


@kavati1,

" the original reason for this post was because my previous non-suspended table had none of these issues."

hifiron, Would that (fact) be a good starting point and an honest reason in need of disclosure before you made a mess of this? Wow! I knew something was wrong.

As usual, I’m the one who seemingly is the "bad guy". Give me a break!


toddveronne. See?

Frankly, I’m the one who gave toddverrone the basics for his current TT set-up/the springs.

What a let down!

Why do you say I'm "mad!?" I was just expressing my thoughts. How you choose to interpret them is on you.

Most people want to hold on to their money. Why does this seem to irritate you?

Everything else you said was part of my initial response which most everyone seemed to not take to heart.

toddverrone..Chill!

just saw the OP posting about his belt slippage.

Have we’ve been had!

Last time I'll try to help.......

Here are the facts:

The Op initially said the wall mount was ("out of consideration").

Based upon his use of an antiquated console, (which I presumed to be of importance) most here seem to want him to remodel it and affix to the wall. I can only assume his wall is out of consideration as far as hanging stuff on it?

These "initial words" by the OP and the fact that most want to hang onto their money led me to my recommendations.

His set-up is  probably the worst possible scenario. Not only does he have the worst possible scenario for room construction but he has his TT set up in the worst location... right behind a speaker, and then right between the two speakers.

He initially said he was looking for a mass loaded TT.

The main question is, why am I still posting here?

Why not just remodel the whole house?

Since I don’t understand one word you just said, I’m afraid to disagree!

I just wonder how you’d describe a listening experience??

Hanging the microscopes from the ceiling with bungee cords, was already mentioned. The problem is asthetics!

hifiron,

My crawl space has less than 2'. I ended up using some 4x4s and some 20 ton bottle jacks to support the floor joists.

hifiron,

Trying the inexpensive options I laid out would let you experience how this option can work within the system you now have. This sort of end user experience is invaluable. Changing to a completely different TT/suspension does not give you any real answers going forward within your current framework.

If you bring home a different TT, not only do you have a totally new/unfamiliar design to try and interpret but you lose whatever synergy you had to start with. How does this help?

Good luck.

"Don’t use springs, that would negate the suspension system of the Thorens."

I would just add this...

If the Thoren’s suspension was working properly, you’d have little to no problem now? Why would another layer of (effective) isolation be a bad thing? Would the author of the above quote say the same thing if you had a Minus K under your TT now?

To borrow a often read quote from geoffkait... "Hell-ooo!"

hifiron,

Fixing your console to your wall does what, exactly? Your wall is connected to your floor, right? This is the entire issue. ( This would be a (minor) improvement that would be a cause of considerable amount of time/unnecessary work and destruction to your wall).

I’d be glad to discuss with you further on a PM if you’d like. I have similar issues and have found ways to achieve excellent results.

Good luck.

There are other threads about this very issue you may want to research.

The least expensive and maybe most effective option would be to use springs / www.grainger.com rated for your TT’s weight. Using springs will require the need to adjust your TT for level.

So a couple of MDF boards with some sort of footer or shims between the bottom board and your current console that allows for level adjustment, the springs between the two boards and your TT on top.

This will be very beneficial without messing up your walls, all the while, giving you a taste of the benefits of what good isolation can accomplish for the future.

Your other components would benefit from this as well.