Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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@theaudiotweak, how can you say such a thing? Why, he’s just posting here to share his enthusiasm for the "hobby". It’s all about having fun!!! Are you suggesting he’s disingenuous?

Get on board, brother---disassemble your electronics and stick little pieces of wood and other doohickeys under all the parts. Those engineers who designed them don’t know anything about how to really achieve good sound, ’cause they don’t do "the walk". Guys like Nelson Pass are so passe’, with their stuffy ’ol engineering education and knowledge. Poor fools, they don’t know HEA is dead.

But don’t despair; there is a new Messiah on the scene, ready to lead us all to the promised land. Just drink the kool-aid, and pass the collection plate. Hey, even Messiah's gotta eat.

OK, let’s see, who’s nastier? My vote goes to bdp24. Second place goes to theaudiotweak. Sorry guys. There can be only one winner. Sorry, Tom, at least you tried. Costco_emoji would have had a shot but he keeps deleting his posts.
"No other threads or answers given except for own self promotion. Has he ever been a benefit to Audiogon..."
What does geoffkait, all of a sudden, have to do with this audiotweak/Michael Green dispute?

Huh? What does that quote have to do with your humble scribe? Oh, wait, I see, this is glubson at his/her peak. Bad glubson, bad! Besides, I don’t promote myself. I promote the truth!

“I’m walking through these streets that are dead.”