Soulution or CH Precision


Hello 

I am looking for my next ( and “final”. Nothing is definitive in audio but let’s say long term buy) .
For many different reasons ( including listening session of course) those two brands are the favourite ones but I can’t decide between both. To be more specific: L1+X1+M1.1 for CH P or 725/711 for Soulution.
 Speakers: YG or Magico.
 Music taste: very versatile 

 So far i have a slight preference for the Soulution pre and the CH P power amp...
CH P is more versatile and upgradeable, Soulution is a bit more fuller sound....

Did anyone compare those two brands/models?


moby2004

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i play in that sandbox too; ultra uber Swiss solid state.

if you read the current Stereophile you will read about the new darTZeel 468 mono block amplifiers and 18NS preamp, and the CH P M1.1’s are contrasted.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/dartzeel-nhb-468-monoblock-power-amplifier

compared to the CH-P M1.1 you mention the Soulution is a bit more fuller sound, the darTZeel is that direction, but even a bit more subtle and refined.

i own the dart 458 amps-18NS pre and really love that combo. i’m hearing music and not a system or electronics.

at this level it’s preference and not good and bad choices. i figured that review might be helpful. not seen any CH-P--Soulution compare.
regarding darTZeel and dynamics and fast transients, i would say that you have it completely in the service of the music. and that the amplifiers you are considering are 3x or 4x the price of the 108 stereo dart. granted the mono darts are even more costly than the ones you are targeting.

but back to dynamics and fast transients; i would say that first of all, that sometimes perceived speed has to do with something missing or diminished, in a relative sense, that musical completeness is important. and then that micro-dynamic nuance and musical refinement expand the times when you have the musical connection. amplifier-speaker synergy is so important. the speakers you have targeted are not forgiving.

the investment you are considering is considerable. not that i presume to know what gear level you are coming from. but you may also find that a step into this ’uber’ gear level realm expands your musical horizons and even adjusts what might now be so important. i know my musical tastes have evolved with my system and a broader range of music now connects with me that never before impressed me.

i have many visitors to my system who are astonished by how my darTZeel’s can do large scale music with maximum power and slam, but retain their soul and composure. never hard or fatiguing, they flow along with whatever warp 9 music i choose, be it Beethoven or Led Zeppelin.

OTOH so much of the music is in the first watt; and the big darts have an amazing magical first watt that delivers soul and drive in those more subdued musical moments.

at these very high levels of gear it’s overall balance that really delivers.

darTZeel does take a path less traveled. many fewer pieces in the signal path and no global feedback. a more direct musical connection. not as processed. and distribution of darTZeel is more spotty. not sure where you live, but if you can fly to the Seattle area you would be welcome to visit me to hear them.