Looking to get into Vinyl

Hey guys,

I have been a digital guy since my early days as an audiofool. I have a niche that needs to be filled. The last year or so I have been listening too and buying a lot of war-era (WWII) music (cabaret, swing, vocal jazz, etc.) from Italy, Germany, France, US, and other places. The idea of searching and finding those rare recordings on vinyl sounds appealing to me (call me a romantic). Besides the nostalgic factor, I am only looking to make the switch for a very exclusive collection of music. What would be an all in one turntable that would suit me in the $1000 NEW range?
Rega P5 or Music Hall MM7 (comes with cartridge).
Second Steve's MMF-7 recommendation. A great value and you'll recover most, if not all, of your investment when you upgrade.

Good luck!
think about looking at the used market also.lots of good deals to be had.
If you purchase used, make sure you know the questions to ask the seller to try to decipher if the unit was operated properly. As a possible "newbie" owner (and we have all been there at one time or another), the table might have experienced more abuse/misuse than a new one. Personally, if it were me and I was starting at entry level ($1000 new range), I would NEVER purchase used. YMMV.

My precious dad was a German POW in WWII, liberated by General Patton at Stalag Luft III or VIIa (can't remember off the top of my head) on April 29, 1945. I love music from that era. If any song quiets me from that era it is "Sentimental Journey" by The Les Brown Orchestra with Doris Day. My Dad tells about being a newly liberated American, having his 21st birthday as he traveled home from Europe on a troop ship called "The Round Robin" by sea, and hearing that song for the first time. Every time I hear it I am reduced to tears. To see that blonde haired, blue eyed wonderful man go through that in my mind is almost too much for this daughter to handle.

God Bless Our Greatest Generation, All Those Who Currently Serve (The New Greatest Generation), and most of all, Those Who Have Paid the Ultimate Sacrifice (and their families) --

Proud Marine Mom of Corporal Ryan
USMC Veteran of Two Tours to Iraq/The Middle East
(Just rejoined for 4 more years on 10/02/06)
A Hero In My Eyes

Hi Baroque_lover,

I don't agree with your limitation to buy new. At $<$1000.00 new I think Rega is your best choice. For the same money, I would look at a used Linn, a better used Rega, or if you can find a used VPI Scout. Also, a Sota would be a good choice.

The Music Hall is nice, but there is a substantial difference when you move to the Rega or better turntable.

Also, I would suggest that you reserve $400-$800 for a good cartridge (i.e. Sumiko Blackbird, Shelter 501, etc.) The right used table may include this.

Good luck with your choices!

I would agree with the Rega and Music Hall brands as being good buys at your price point. However, I can think of no logical reason why you want new when you can get an even better table used on Audiogon for the same money.
I had the mmf-7 and it is a good tt for the cash. But I still believe for even less you can get a used HW-19 with an Audioquest pt-6 arm and achive even better success while upgrading it along the way on the cheap.
Consider a Lenco 75 rebuild. It has great sonic attributes and vaeious speed adjustment, 33, 45, 78rpm.
Either Lenco or KAB modified Technics 1200. They will smoke any TT in your price range (and beyond). Check it out at KAB: http://www.kabusa.com

Whatever table you buy, if you're buying that era of vinyl, you better be prepared to clean it. Budget $300 or so for a KAB EV1 or basic Nitty Gritty and some RRL fluids/carbon fibre brushes so you can clean those records!!
Baroque lover,
The music you refer to is wonderful music but you must think about the software question as well as the hardware. If you are interested in this music on vinyl because you want original issue type sound, we are talking late 1940's and there were of course no 12 inch vinyl LP's so you must be prepared to deal with laquer 78's. In the early 50's music moved to vinyl so you can find reissues of the mid - late 40's stuff. If you are OK with reissues, I would suggest you also look at audiophile CD reissues which, if well done can be very satisfying for someone more interested in the music than nuances of sound. I would suggest there is not a huge inventory of mint recordings of music from 60 years ago awaiting you out there. That being said, there is good stuff you can find if you are willing to put in the time to search (and ALOT of time into cleaning issues). Good luck!