Liquid stylus cleaner without solvent


Does anything like this exist and if yes, is it effective?
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Showing 4 responses by mijostyn

The concern is only for styli that are glued on. As for what kind of solvent would attack the glue? That depends on the type of glue being used.
Alcohols will attack epoxy. Acetone will attack cyanoacrylates. I have not been able to determine what type of glue is being used. There are some very tough adhesives out there that are rapid curing. The adhesives used on solid surface material (Corian) are a good example. They are two part like epoxy and cure within minutes. Very little will attack them. There are many adhesives that are perfectly stable in water. If water attacked epoxy the entire fiberglass boat fleet would be sinking.  

lewm is correct. Water is a weak polar solvent. The Lyra stylus cleaner is water based. I have a bottle and it seem to work fine. But do you really need a solvent? I think Cleeds makes a very valid point. If your records are clean then what is there to worry about? A very soft artist brush will knock any incidental dust off just fine....as long as the dust is dry and not carrying any lipid like pollutants produced by from cooking and smoking various combustibles. You mix up dust with water and you get cement. Mix it with cooking fumes and you get tar.  If this gets on your records then you stylus will collect it like a plow collects snow. A dry brush will not get this stuff off. I am sure there are solvents that are safe to use. When you see these blanket statements there is usually a liability issue underneath. Problem is that without knowing the exact adhesive used it is hard to know what is safe. One thing is for certain, the gel or solid stylus cleaners are not. I know of two examples of people loosing styluses using gel cleaners. If the motion is anything but straight up and down the lateral stress will break the diamond off. Whatever glue is being used it is quite brittle. You can see that in the picture I took of the missing Clearaudio stylus, a jagged and sharp fracture line. 

If your environment is clean, no smoking or cooking and your records are clean then all you need is a soft brush which is what Peter Ledermann recommends. Mostly that it all I use. Unfortunately, life is never perfect and occasionally I will see some adherent goop on the stylus. I have always used a 50% solution of isopropyl alcohol in water but switched to Lyra cleaner after my Clearaudio stylus disappeared. If we can find out what adhesive is being used from one of the manufacturers we can know exactly what is safe. My guess is that many of the manufacturers also have no idea what is being used. It appears the cantilever assemblies are manufactured elsewhere, made to order and supplied ready to install. 
Perhaps we can get Peter Ledermann or Jonathan Carr to comment on this subject. 

@chakster, whether or not solvents are safe to use with glued on styluses depends on the type of glue being used. Maybe in your research you could find out. There may be certain solvents like water that are perfectly safe. Lyra's styluses are glued on and they make a liquid (water based) stylus cleaner that works great but costs too much. I would be willing to bet that a chlorofluorocarbon solvent would also work fine. chlorofluorocarbons are extremely inert but great non-polar solvents and evaporate very quickly. They are safe to use with epoxy and other two part adhesives. The solvent in "Last" is a chlorofluorocarbon. The problem is that unless we know what the glue being used is, we do not know for sure. You can always go for a bottle of Lyra's cleaner. I would never recommend Onzow. It is just too easy to f-up and rip the stylus off.
The Lyra cleaner also comes with a very nice little brush.

@emailists, liquids migrating up the cantilever is not an issue as the materials cantilevers are made of are not fluid absorbent, do not have channels and are usually not hollow. You might have to worry if your cantilever is an open tube due to capillary action assuming the inner parts are even in danger. I would bet the rubbers used in suspensions are impervious to most solvents. You can pour all kinds of caustic stuff on car tires without issue. 
If any body has an old cartridge in need of a re-tip, one that has a glued on stylus they could test the glue with any number of solvents.