p.s. "No mary jo. I did not not.
I’ve never been to Croatia and only time It came up in my History studies was about the Ustashe. Interesting though."
Man, can’t believe it. Since this what schubert is saying sounds quite defeating to any normal Croatian citizen, I just have to write something on that subject although this will not change anything and this thread is certainly not a place for politics. It is not that I am too surprised with the way the World sees us, it is just that I was hoping for at least wider side of the picture.
I will be as short as possible.
Facts:
Croatia is former republic of former SOCIALIST federation Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia consisted of 6 Republics: Bosnia and Herzegovina, CROATIA, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.
When the World War II started, military operations in Yugoslavia began with the RESISTANT movement which is considered to be Europe’s most effective anti-Axis resistance movement during World War II (!)
The movement was consistently referred to as the "PARTISANS" throughout the war.
In Partisans were people from Bosnia and Herzegovina, CROATIA, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.
At the SAME time, during WW II, on the territory of Yugoslavia were also (in MINORITY but did existed) Serbian Chetniks and Croatian fasicsts Ustashe who both were domestic traitors cooperating with the Nazi Germany.
So as you can see, there were Partisans, Chetniks and Ustashe. The first were fighting against the fascists, the second and the third were cooperating with them. My ancestors belonged to the first ones.
I’ve never been to Croatia and only time It came up in my History studies was about the Ustashe. Interesting though."
Man, can’t believe it. Since this what schubert is saying sounds quite defeating to any normal Croatian citizen, I just have to write something on that subject although this will not change anything and this thread is certainly not a place for politics. It is not that I am too surprised with the way the World sees us, it is just that I was hoping for at least wider side of the picture.
I will be as short as possible.
Facts:
Croatia is former republic of former SOCIALIST federation Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia consisted of 6 Republics: Bosnia and Herzegovina, CROATIA, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.
When the World War II started, military operations in Yugoslavia began with the RESISTANT movement which is considered to be Europe’s most effective anti-Axis resistance movement during World War II (!)
The movement was consistently referred to as the "PARTISANS" throughout the war.
In Partisans were people from Bosnia and Herzegovina, CROATIA, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.
"By the middle of 1943 partisan resistance to the Germans and their allies had grown from the dimensions of a mere nuisance to those of a major factor in the general situation. In many parts of occupied Europe the enemy was suffering losses at the hands of partisans that he could ill afford. Nowhere were these losses heavier than in Yugoslavia."
—Basil Davidson (British historian)At the SAME time, during WW II, on the territory of Yugoslavia were also (in MINORITY but did existed) Serbian Chetniks and Croatian fasicsts Ustashe who both were domestic traitors cooperating with the Nazi Germany.
So as you can see, there were Partisans, Chetniks and Ustashe. The first were fighting against the fascists, the second and the third were cooperating with them. My ancestors belonged to the first ones.
Unfortunately, today must admit that our country is ashamed of her role in the history of anti-fascism and prefer to identify itself more with fascism. Why is that so, that is a complex story to be told somewhere else, not on this thread.
I apologize for bothering you with this subject but after schubert’s line I just had to.