Jazz for aficionados
Listening to some Metheny tonight , and was wondering, why is "First Song (for Ruth)" not a standard? Does it deserve to be? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hzGscogkmU Does this change your mind? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drvi-9LVClk |
I think any order for Rok's list would be ok with me, but would add Armstrong's original version was 30 years before Preservation's version so who is copying who? The video hid itself above, by itself. Very fitting though. Enjoyed this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8a85lQxLiQ |
Rok, Please put your heart medicine beside the computer BEFORE clicking on this link. I don't know where they came up with the title "Epic" :). On most everybody's top 10 list for 2015. It gets better the more you can absorb, as there is a lot going on. Anybody reminded of Sun Ra Orkestra? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YbPSIXQ4q4 |
Don"t forget the Big Band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShge1fmWgA O-10, look up Widows Taste website, interesting reviews of "Straight Life". Also some recently released recordings of Pepper's. |
Frogman's Steps Ahead post reminded me of this Mike Nock's recording with Mike Brecker, Al Foster and George Mraz . Not the music I would post off the record, but….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQeiZvxEZkQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrcmn1bwknw |
Sorry, ran across this looking for west coast. Had to post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHicOTweC5o |
O-10, You talking to me?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJNnDCOK_gw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-yhzUFwP8A |
Jafant, you may remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t88stnbP0g I too like Mr.Thomas in his Avant Garde mode than conventional, and only in small doses, unless heavily medicated, but Pharoah Sanders is good in most all situations. |
O-10, I do have "Jewels of Thought", but Kharma is one recording that I had on cassette, and was forced to get rid of due to lack of storage space. It still bothers me, that I had to get rid of thousands of great titles on cassette. Should have got rid of a child instead :), in hindsight, but I do like to hunt down music in dark, dusty rooms, so maybe one day I will get them all back! I am not the biggest fan of Leon, but thanks for bringing him up for discussion and listening. Rok, I remember reading that" Bloodcount" was actually another song title written before Strayhorn was sick, before the history we were told , of it being composed by Strayhorn on his deathbed, but I like the history we were told. Have to leave for work, so I don't have time to clean up that last paragraph. |
Rok, while checking out Jimmy Blanton records I ran across this and knew you were a fan. Can’t figure out why? ;0 ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLVbIT-y7ts |
Speaking of Conductors, What do our two esteemed classical musicians, Frogman and Learsfool, think of Jaap Van Sweden leaving the Dallas Symphony for New York Philharmonic ? I thought it would be a good thing for New York, because he is very good in my novice opinion, but noticed some apprehension in an article. I guess change is hard on both sides when someone leaves a post. |
Rok, i agree on a surface level that you are correct, but if you listen to what a Bassist and drummer are playing behind the frontline, and how they add much more than foundation and beat, and are just as important as lead players. And when all the players are listening to each other; Awesome! The playing of Haden, on bass, and Dejohnette , on drums, is a revelation, on the Metheny/ Coleman recording of Song X. I know this is not a style for you, but I listened to the rhythm section, over and over in the 80's, so this is the only thing that I thought of as a perfect example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d66Ytt2g7ns At first it is like watching the offensive line open a hole in American football, but before long you start to see the beauty of the interior line play. ;) |
A little Oscar Pettiford, with Kenny Clark and some weird guy who obviously can't play. I've got stuck on this for the past week! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1gVRStnjwc |
O-10, I love both those bands, but if you forced me to choose the best group from that time period….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaYQ-I0xQmA |
Tell Armsrong, Parker, Ellington,Miles, ect, it was not about intellect. Study the origins of Bebop, then come back. They were studying everyday what the classical composers of their time were doing. Same with Ellington. He went from dance band to Orchestral. Always been about great musicians intellect. |
I also agree with O-10 ,that his mystery musician friend , after years of practice , could hit a time where he was firing on all cylinders and also due to playing regularly , was able to move forward without practice. How long would that " zone"last ?????????? O gets a little cranky sometimes, but he would not make it up. Purple panther piss; I had to look that up, after I stopped laughing. |
You beat me, but good call, and a Kansas City girl I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIE_PSLrwjY |
Sorry to spoil the Mary Lou love fest, but I am still stuck on bassist, and this marvelous trio came to mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zslbPNTWuO8 |
Learsfool , somewhere during our discussions, I determined that our mystery jazzman was a organist. I can't remember when or where, and I never was able to be 100 percent sure, but somewhere through the years I decided he was an organist. Does it change your opinion of the possibilities of O-10's magic summer? O-10, am I hot or cold? |
The whole record is improvisation! A startling recording to the open mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRys39wfwZQ |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0LYrbQc_0 Sorry I was comparing the trio's as a whole, and mainly Evans to Werner. My bad! Forgot the initial point was the bass player. Marc Johnson played with Bill Evans from 1978 until his death. |
O-10, other than they are playing a Bill Evan's tune, and Bill Evan's bass player is on bass, I don't think they sound much alike. Mr. Evans has a soft touch and quite a different way of playing from Mr. Werner. Werner actually strikes his keys when they are bad. Evans always tries to spoil his keys with timeouts. I do think they both would agree, less is more. |
See if you can locate the various greats from this band. Nice solo by Kenny Garrett. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwR6jeSnE8I Rok, I am still trying to get through the Bernard Perdie CD. I have Soul to Jazz II. Will report back once complete. |
