Has anyone heard the new North American products preamp and amp?


The new versions are called X-10s and the amp is on its third version or Mark III. This truly provides holograph imagine unlike anything I've heard before. On symphonic orchestras, one can hear the first violins. I have never heard an amp sound this precise.

In reality, I doubt if any amplifier can rival it. I certainly have never heard any that do so. Every album is so involving.

The preamp has yet to get a remote but is nevertheless, quite striking.
tbg

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Well why doesn't roger just say that then.  It at least makes sense and is understandable.  
I have been a computer programmer for 30 years.  

Talking about out subroutines and objects in the context of an analog electrical device may be a nice analogy but serves little purpose except to muddy the waters with tech talk IMHO.    

Having read the white paper I also do do not understand what the speed of sound in air Mach 1 has to do with the speed of an electrical signal in a circuit or why it matters.    

I have not heard the products so I have no idea how they sound but if truly as innovative as claimed it should not take long for word to get out I guess. 

Why do you talk about subroutines when all analog?   


Makes no sense.   


Many know I am a fan of Walsh driver technology, the innovation of Lincoln Walsh many years ago. its worth reading up on that.

Walsh drivers operate on a wave bending principle. Rainbows occur essentially due to wave bending.

So there is something to the concept of understanding how waves propagate in various medium and how it relates to sound.

So I understand the problem Roger’s stuff tries to solve to some extent, but cannot comment on how much of an issue this is in an amp or how effective or not Rogers approach is. Many aspects of design in an amp
affect the end results and performance. Not just any one.

Maybe I’ll get to hear this someday and maybe even get a peek inside at the magic sauce. It’s an interesting concept but the explanations are muddy as hell at best.

Claims of 0 distortion set off a clear red flag for me though..  Nothing is perfect.  Nothing.   Approaches zero....I might believe.  Many can and do already make that claim.    The consensus generally is that harmonic  distortion specs alone tell you little meaningful about the resulting sound.       Exaggerations not needed if a product is clearly superior sounding to all the rest.
"The way to do this is to make sure the your gear delivers the (musical information) to you at the same speed as it traveled through the air at the time of the recording."

If its just the amp we are talking about, the speed of the electric signal/wave it delivers as has been discussed prior is NOT the same as air no matter what happens in the amp prior.

So this statement makes no sense.

If we are talking about the speed of the sound coming out of the speaker, then yes because now we are talking about sound waves traveling through air again. But the amp has nothing to do with the speed of sound in air.   So again it does not compute.
Yes, whatever.

tbg its a good thing Roger has you as a translator.  What you said and what he said seem like two totally different things relating to speed of waves.

An interesting discussion. True innovations speak for themselves over time. Like those of Lincoln Walsh. We’ll see....
Well one could always just pay for advertising instead of shilling on sites for free.  Then you don't have to worry about things like people asking questions. 
Better to have a small group of enthusiastic fans than none at all.

Heck I heard one guy showed up in a snowstorm for presidential candidate Martin O’Malley’s town hall in Iowa even.

Just having some fun....
In any case, I've learned what I need to know.   I am done with this thread.  Roger thanks for your patience answering questions.   It is much appreciated.  Good luck!
All the good engineers i know think out of the box all the time.  

All the the tech talk nobody can understand has no meaning obviously.  The product will live or die on its value proposition and sonic merits like all do. 

I agree with atmosphere that talking about things nobody understands  does not do any justice.   Just my two cents.  


Anyone is free to talk about whatever they want.  

There  is validity to the theory that any publicity is good publicity compared to none at all.  
Any publicity may be good publicity compared to none. But one would expect spreading misinformation to backfire eventually. 

The truth often only comes out over time.  

A few fans on a thread is better than nothing but this ain't conquering the world quite yet.   We'll see.   I'm always all for better sound.    


Very true.  

But out then again how to account for all the marketers in the world?   

You gotta get the word out.  

Its just  if you use a public forum to do it anything is fair game.  No news really there.   its the price you pay for free advertising.  


Asking questions to better understand is not obfuscating.   

It's a public thread.  You an try to bully but you don't get to dictate the contents.  

Buy some paid advertising for that.  

Roger,

Can you tell us where your amps are made and who does the manufacturing?

Also do you keep an inventory and what is the wait period?

Thanks.