Electraglide Ultra Kahn / Shunyata Anaconda vx


Guys, I'm soon going to be looking for a very high quality power cable for my transport (system details below) and have both the Ultra Kahn Statement 2 and Anaconda vx on my shortlist. The qualities I favour are musicality and a full bodied tonal structure, with excellent micro-dynamics to recreate a realistic ambiance. I already have an anaconda vx which i think is great however a dealer (with an excellent reputation who stocks both brands) has suggested I will love the Ultra Kahn even more. Alternatively maybe you can suggest other models which may work well for me. I've heard good things about elrod however they are too inflexible for my tastes; similarly any views about the Wollf Carbon Ribbons would be appreciated. thanks Mark

audio synthesis transcend and dax discrete
valhalla i/c with silver bullet plugs
rogue amp with nos gecs / rcas
xindak fs2 spkr cables
hydra 8 with anaconda / python / xindak gold
townshend seismic stand
colesey

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It amazes me that people will pay hundreds / thousands of dollars for some wire / cabling rather than invest that into correcting the problems in the gear that they have and / or getting rid of the problem at the AC source. Isn't this kind of like trying to find a faster, more powerful horse because your old horse can't move your covered wagon quickly enough? One would think that it would be obvious where the attention needs to be concentrated once you saw those square wheels, but i guess not.

Michaelwolff said "It would be nice to be able to claim to make the only accurate component in the audio world. But that will never be a reality, since some people like it hot and some like it cold."

My response to that is that accuracy has nothing to do with personal preference. What people like and what is accurate can be two very different things. Having said that, people should buy what they will use and enjoy. Sean
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Flex: My comments, while possibly less than ultimately clear, did not pertain to swapping gear so much as "fixing what was already there". That is, instead of investing in cabling, invest in filtration. As a side note note, there's a lot more to linearity than a frequency sweep.

Michaelwolff: Accuracy has nothing to do with personal opinions. That's called preference. I'm sorry if you can't understand that, but i guess that 1+1=something other than 2 in your book. Since i'll never understand your type of math, especially since you can't explain how the equation actually works, and i don't speak jive nor have i acquired a taste for snake oil yet, i'll call it quits here and now. Sean
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Michael: Until you can get rid of / suppress the noise and interference on the line, you'll never have a "neutral" power cord. That's because the impedance and design of the cord itself will introduce varying levels of filtering / wave-shaping distortions to the broad-band "polluted" signal entering the device.

If you get rid of the noise / interference before it enters the power cord, the characteristics of the power cord become FAR less critical. That's because all the power cord has left to do is to maintain the purity and amplitude of the signal that was fed into it and keep its' own "antenna action" to a minimum. After all, we are talking about a 60 Hz sine wave here. You don't need to worry about too much here as a sine wave is FAR more limited in bandwidth and duty cycle as compared to that of a square wave, etc... This reduces the need for fast transient response and / or wide bandwidth, so skin effect isn't of much concern either.

It's too bad that people are gullible enough / lack the proper education in certain areas to pay good money for a few dB's of non-linear attenuation / elevation with random results and predictability. They could be achieving results that are both far more consistent, linear and measurable for equal or less money. Then again, nobody ever said that all audiophiles were smart shoppers or that all cable manufacturers were honest or ethical.

Carry on, my wayward son.... Sean
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I'll let the sales-shack marketing carry on as it was before i entered this thread. I'll just say that i guess i would be bitter & upset if someone were publicly questioning the necessity of a product that i made and others like it, especially if i couldn't refute their statements or experiences. Especially if after all of the forum marketing hype, all i could sell were 3 power cords for the entire first month that they were available.

Personally, something like this would make me think that maybe if i had conducted proper spectral analysis tests and taken measurements in the difference of the noise floor using lab grade test equipment, i could actually document the performance benefits and design attributes of the cable. That would allow me to have proof of my claims and as a result, sales might improve. Then again, if none of the other cable manufacturers were offering proof of their claims, why should anyone expect that? Maybe if one were to keep coming out with newer models and make bolder claims, they could charge even more money and sell a few more cables. Hmmm.... Sean
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Goodnight Gracie....
Warren: By nature, a well designed power cable that attempts to achieve a lower noise floor is NOT "neutral" in itself. As such, i've already answered your question.

Power cords are PART of a power delivery SYSTEM. When you count on them to perform major filtering through manipulation of the bandpass and / or cleanse a component of incoming RFI & EMI all by themselves, you've assigned a helluva lot of complex work to what is basically a relatively simple passive circuit with minimal parts count. If you would like further details, try reading this thread about transformers here on Agon. Sean
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Warren: In response to the questions here and to the two emails that you sent me, I don't see every response or every thread posted right away. My schedule and attention levels vary, so i don't / can't always respond to suit your preferences or schedule.

I typically check the "12 hour" view and if i don't see anything in that section that i'm interested in and / or already posting in, i may not be aware that i "need" to follow up on a post or request. Due to the differences in when i'm logging on due to my own personal schedule and the time that someone posts a response, i may not see their response right away. That is, until someone else posts and brings that thread back up into sync with my specific schedule and the "recent 12 hour activity". Evidently, your posts and my viewing habits didn't coincide within a 12 hour time-frame, hence the lack of response. Sorry if that upsets you or anyone else.

Having said that, i normally have five different systems running. My speaker cables of choice are the flat series of Goertz ( as should be well known by now ). Having said that, i'm not running Goertz in every system. My HT system is plumbed with Kimber 8TC and 4TC and my bedroom system uses modified XLO cabling. The Kimber was used in the HT system due to routing / flexibility issues and because i consider it to be a pretty well rounded product. The XLO was used for similar reasons, but only after i reconfigured the electrical geometry of the cable and re-terminated it. Like most of the other types of interconnects and power cords, i have many different types and brands of speaker cables that i own but aren't using.

As far as interconnects go, they vary by application and are non-universal by nature due to different loading conditions in the component to component interphase. My thoughts on this should be reasonably well know by anyone that has read more than a few of my posts on the subject. If you want a list of brand names that i have and am currently using, i have and use Magnan, Music Metre, Tara Labs, VH Audio, Goertz and a few other random cables along with some home-brewed designs spread through-out my various systems. I also have several dozen other interconnects from such companies as Purist, Audioquest, Goertz, Monster, etc... that i'm not using, but could if i thought they worked better in a given application. In case you're wondering why i listed Goertz in both used / not-using categories, it is because i'm running some of their cables in balanced / XLR form but not in single-ended / RCA form. Re-configuring the same cable from RCA to XLR changes the electrical properties of the cable. This is due to the geometry of the cable being altered, which in turn changes the nominal impedance, bandwidth, etc... and the way that the signal is conducted.

The power cords that i use vary depending on the electrical characteristics and current demands that each individual device requires. Many of these are my own design and / or commercially available designs that i've "tweaked" a bit to suit my own specific needs / goals. Most take into account different design / electrical attributes that i've publicly discussed in three different cable and / or AC based threads that are currently in recent rotation.

I will say that they are all low inductance / high capacitance designs that make use of reasonably flexible conductors. I'm not a big fan of ultra-rigid power cables, or any other cable that is "stiff" for that matter.

As such, i hope that this answers some of your questions.

As a side note, after you sent me the first email i.e. "Hey Sean, did your psychiatrist forbid you to talk to me? lol Lay those power cords etc. on me.", i responded to your cock-eyed comments about my supposed psychiatrist not allowing me to talk to you ( i don't see or have a psychiatrist )and asked what you were referring to in specific, here's what i got back from you: "I'm just fool'n with you. We've had some tete a tetes on the 'gon and with your temporary banishment (and as a rule; anger tinged posts) from the 'gon, I thought that you were avoiding any contact with me, and others, perhaps. Anyway, you're clearly avoiding my questions, or circumlocuting. Now that I've given you the deal with the psychiatrist, how about answering my questions? Fair enough? peace, warren". Why didn't you just respond to me with a simple link to this ( or any other specific ) thread instead of the response above?

Instead of doing so, you tell me that you're only joking with me regarding the psychiatrist. Fair enough, i can take a joke. Then you dive right back in and accuse me of avoiding the issues, not wanting to talk to you, etc... Given that i responded to your previous question above less than 2 days ago, provided you with a basic explanation of the background of my AC system and thoughts on the subject by linking to a different thread...how am i avoiding you?

On top of that, you continue on with "Now that I've given you the deal with the psychiatrist, how about answering my questions? Fair enough?". This doesn't seem like a joke to me. Then you resort back to signing off with "peace, warren". What the hell kind of conflicting message is that???

I'll tell ya, with all of the problems i've had lately with my server and email not showing up consistently, this is the kind of stuff that makes it through ??? I will make one thing clear here. I do not wish to converse with you, either privately or publicly. Out of all of the folks that i've ever dealt with on the net publicly and / or via private email, you are the least consistent and what i would term "the biggest flake" of the bunch.

If you want proof of the inner-conflict that you're obviously dealing with, just re-read the last email that you sent to me. If anyone here needs therapy, i think you've got your answer. I've never been anything but "point blank" with any of my answers. I don't think that the majority of people reading these forums would consider me a "chicken" when it comes to being "confronted" with questions. Sean
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