CD Player w Volume control-Suggestions?


I am looking to run direct to my amp as the majority of my listening is digital. I am looking for a player which is upgradable, and has an excellent volume control. Unfortunately, I don't get the opportunity to audiotion alot of peices, and therefore have to "dwindle" down the choices and go from there. My budget is about $3000US (I'm from Canada.......so that's about $4500CDN). Any suggestions? This is my system I'd be connecting it to: HT TruthLink 2m XLR Plinius SA-100 MkII Transparent Ultras (single) Castle Winchester speakers with mods. Thanks alot folks and happy listenin'!!
rcoppens

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hey carl, do ewe have anything useful to say? yer ears must be *really* good, if ewe can hear email...
at that price point, yule get best sound running an inexpensive cd-player thru a nice $3000 tubed preamp - especially if ya buy used. i'd put my $350 ($500 retail) nad cd-changer + $2000 ($4600 retail) melos music-director preamp up against any comparably-priced cd-player run straight-in. i *do* confess that the preamp has *also* improved the sound of my vinyl & fm considerably, too! :>) personally, i'm gonna wait 'til there's a decent sacd/cd/dvd-a player out there for ~$500 before i spend any more money on digital hardware.

doug

my brother-in-law woodn't consider running his res-audio cd-50 straight-in to his a-r 100.2 amps driving his proac 2.5's - he sez it's better run thru his a-r ls-16 preamp - more relaxed, less etched & fatiguing, w/no loss of detail. he'd rather run his alchemist cd-player thru the pre (~half the cost of the res-audio) than run the res-audio straight-in. matter-of-fact, he sez there's wery little diff between the two when run thru the pre, & only noticeable on a direct a-b comparison.

i a-b'd the same alchemist cd-player w/my ~$500 nad cd-changer thru my melos pre, & there was *no* difference whatsoever between the two...

so, while intellectually, it may seem that putting a pre between the cd-player & amp will degrade the sound, in reality this is not always the case.

regards, doug

hi cblly,

i understand that there are folks who prefer their digital run straight-in. perhaps, as in your case, the tube amp is a key that helps smooth-out what i find to be etched, fatiguing digital sound, when run thru solid-state equipment. i also find it telling that ewe say "it sounds as good, if not better than" when using a pre. at least, in your case, the pre doesn't seem to be degrading the cd-sound. for those of us who use other sources, this is good to know.

prior to getting my current tubed preamp, i had a linn kairn feeding signal to my solid-state electrocompaniet amps. the only way i could tolerate digital, even when run thru the linn, was w/an ase z-man tubed buffer-stage w/nos mullard tube. i don't need that buffer-stage anymore, & as i said, even my cheap cd-changer now sounds as good as i'm gonna get for any reasonable amount of money.

regards, doug

carl, others seem to find it helpful, sorry ewe don't. i've heard my brother-in-law's system, & it's great. as i said before, i don't wanna drag him into your pettiness. i have no reason to misrepresent him - what rationale do you tink would make me wanna? so i could win some imaginary contest w/ewe? HA HA HA!

as i've said before, i feel this forum is for people to give useful info on experiences, so they can then make their own decisions on what equipment may or may not better their musical enjoyment. what useful info have ewe *ever* given on the thread as to the usefulness of a preamp improving cd-sound?!? all i know is ya love yer res-audio cd-50 run straight-in; i & no one else knows what preamp yuve tried w/it; why are ewe so reluctant to discuss it? what are ewe hiding?

ewe say i have "no freaking experience with what i'm talking about" - at least i cite all the pertinent data - then everyone can decide for themselves whether or not it's worthwhile. even if ewe *do* know what yure talking about, if ewe refuse to give all the info, it's not worth much to anyone. yer an odd bird, carl.

carl, i've got nuttin' to prove to yew - if ya got nuttin' to ad to this thread of any relevence, why bother posting? the only thing i'm hiding is insipid comments of yours, from my brother-in-law. he's a decent fellow, & i'm sure he woodn't appreciate email from the likes of yew.
carl, i will address each of your statements, one by one

"I AM decent, and you are a coward!!!" - tell me what i said to deserve such venom from you on theis thread - you consider that decent? as for being a coward, i have nothing to be afraid of, the least, being worried about what others may think about my refusal to drag another party into this *discussion* w/yew.

"Unless I am provoked, I would have no reason to be anything other than cordial to your (imaginary?) brother-in-law, and you know that." - ?!? this is laughable, i know absolutely the opposite to be true - i said absolutely NOTHING to provoke yew, or anyone else, in this thread, & you have been anything but cordial to me.

"AND IF YOU HAVE "NUTTIN" TO PROVE TO ME, then you need to pipe down on this issue, and let those who have more experience than you, share their insights...intstead of guessing that youe little philosophy can somehow be easily applied to all CD players, especially this one." - what little experience i have is put out there for all to make their own judgements about - i only make my opinions known when they are on-topic. regardles of experience level, some folks agree w/me, others not. of those who don't, you're the only one rude about it. at least everyone knows what *my* experience is, whether or not they agree. your experience is a secret - however great it may be, how can anyone gain anything from it? as far as *piping down* cuz i have nothing to prove to you, if i'm not mistaken, it was rcoppens' thread, not yours - i have every right to answer him, w/my opinions, your objections notwithstanding. or is carl eber the new censorship authority on audiogon?

btw, carl, can yew please explain why yoo doubt the marantz' impedence is as low or lower than that of the res audio? is it some superior experience? familiarity w/the specs? or yust another example of carl eber making a wild-assed guess? don't get me wrong - i have absolutely *no* idea of the output impedence of any res-audio or marantz gear. but i'd either *know* or *not* know...

carl, it's simple - you can verify my claims as to my experience because i tell the truth. if that ain't good enuff for you, so be it - i don't really care whether or not you feel i'm making this all up, that's your hang-up, not mine. as i said before, i have nothing to prove, & no reason to lie. this ain't a contest, yust a forum to share opinions about audio. end of discussion.

doug *the coward* sedon