Audio Research Reference 150 and Sonus Faber Cremona


How would this amplifier pair with my Cremonas, original floor standing model? Currently using Classe CA-M300 mono locks, but am tempted to try a tube power amplifier. Using ARC LS-27 preamp.

Cremona's are rated at 4Ohms but with a fairly hard to drive phase angle, so I'm not sure how well this tube amp will work. The Classes are rated 300/600 Watts into 8/4 Ohms


fundsgon

Is anybody powering their Cremonas with the Ref 150 or some other tube power amp? What is your experience? My Classe monoblock have great bass, generally sound sound good, but can have a hard edge in the upper mids. Maybe that's the speaker or the amp.


 I drive a pair of Sonus Faber Elipsa SEs with a Ref 110. It is an excellent match.

 Generally they are known to work very well together. Audio Research is owned by the same parent company as Sonus Faber. They are demoed at shows together a lot and Audio Research uses Sonus Faber speakers in their main listening room.

You might want to browse the AudioAficionado.org board. There are a lot of people pairing Audio Research with Sonus Faber. They have a special section for both a Sonus Faber and Audio Research.


 
I'm powering my Cremona M's with a Reference 150.  I'm also using the Reference 5SE and Reference CD9 player/DAC.  It's fantastic.  The strong points are 3-dimesional soundstaging, phenomenal low level resolution, pinpoint imaging, very smooth but very extended high frequencies, and, of course, midrange bloom.  The electronics are also astonishingly quiet.  I cannot hear even a trace of electronics hiss when I place my ear right up to the tweeter.  I listen mostly to classical music and the acid test for me is massed strings.  This system does it better than any I have heard.  All the solid state amps I have tried have too much high-frequency edginess, which I'm very sensitive to. 
fundsgon
Audio Research Reference 150 and Sonus Faber Cremona


The SF Cremona need current, and a good amount of it if you want to hear the bass "at it’s best". This means solid state amps with big power supplies and bipolar (bjt) output transistors. (
I stipulated "at it’s best" because tube and mosfet amps will drive them and probably sound good, but they won’t get the very best out of them in the bass.

(I not sure if your Classe’s are mosfet or bi-polar) If bi-polar, you have the best amp already, look at other areas if you need to change the sound, source ect.  Because the Classe are 50kohm input impedance you can even try passive preamps. 

Sterophile quote:

However, that amplifier must still be capable of delivering a goodly amount of current. Even though the Sonus Faber’s impedance magnitude remains reasonably uniform at higher frequencies, it drops to 2.8 ohms through the upper bass, with a cruel combination of 4.5 ohms and a -53 degrees electrical phase angle evident at 73Hz (fig.1).
http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/CREmoFIG1.jpg

Cheers George
Thanks guys. The Classe amps have bi-polar output, and I like a mountain of bass, or maybe more precisely I like bass that will rattle the foundations when it's in the music, so I'll stand pat for now. 

Hmmm, maybe those Olympics III's or maybe the Sabrina's by WA. 
fundsgon-

for cheaper money, Rogue Audio, is a sonic match for SF loudspeakers.
Happy Listening!
A pair of Pass amps have come up for sale...how would XA160.5 mono blocks pair with Cremona's? Overkill? Would the Cremona's be up to these great amps?
@fundsgon ,any updates on trying a tube amp?  I have found my ARC Classic 120s to perform nicely in reality.  We can drive ourselves crazy with theory and other's opinions.  Bottom line ARC tube amps are worth the trial in our system.

@georgehifi.....have you actually had a REF 150 connected in your system?