I only autioned the new 800 speakers at shows, often this is not the right place to Judge. These demos were not so good. The 800D ( older series) I listend with own stuff. We could compare it with other speakers. Stage comparing we do all the time. When the stage of the 800D would have been bigger I would have bought them. When you have the chanche to compare many stuff all the time you think differently about music and audio. All the good parts you hear in other systems you want it for yourself as well. There was depth, but not the level other speakers could give. Audio is about comparing the outcome of parts you test. When I am talking about a 3 dimensional stage. I talk about playing 4-5 metres behind the sepakers, but also 1.5 till 2 meters beside the speakers. That is the level you compare other speakers with. And you do it with the same stuff all the time.
