Source Components, Genuinely Need Your Assistance


Hello,

I currently own an excellent system that replays the source material incredibly faithful to the original recording. The system is exactly what I originally set out to accomplish.

Like many others, I set out to assemble a system that was supremely neutral and would replay the original recording truthfully.

My music collection is primarily R&B, Motown, Soul and Funk. Most of which was poorly recorded using standard/lower quality mediums & new music which was created primarily with the use of Digital Synthesizers. When listening to these recordings, voices and instruments do not sound 100% authentic. Its approximately 85% "real". Thing is I know its not going to get there simply because its not on the recording.

I know this because when I listen to any "audiophile" grade recordings, regardless of genre, my system sounds perfect. Simply perfect. I am completely satisfied.

I realize now, based on the types of music I listen to, I should have never ventured into this hobby as the recordings I listen to just can't do a high fidelity system much justice.

Now its simply too late, I am heavily invested and I want to enjoy my stereo with "non-audiophile approved" music.

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I am looking for a new source component, DAC or CD Player that will "color" the sound to my tastes.

The midband must not overly emphasize vocals, but rather highlight them. Vocals should be completely organic, authentic, natural, realistic, believable, thick and enveloping. Budget $8000USD

So far I have found these favorable reviews:

Ancient Audio Lektor Prime
E.A.R. Yoshino Acute mk3
E.A.R. Yoshino DAC 192
E.A.R. Yoshino DAC4 (release coming soon?)
Vincent Audio CD-S8
Yamamoto YDA-01B

I'm looking for some assistance, preferably from members who have actually heard the components they are recommending or suggesting.

Once I have a solid list I will seek out the dealers and listen first hand, hopefully get some in home trials.

Any help is much appreciated.

Best regards,
Shawn
sk3383
You can get there from here, but beware of "smooth" sounding gear. Much of it sacrifices detail and imaging to eliminate harshness, particularly tube gear, but not all.

If you want to retain all of the detail/imaging and dynamics while eliminating the harshness that often accompanies older CD recordings, you will need five things:

1) reduce jitter from the digital source as much as possible
2) eliminate as much digital filtering effect as possible
3) eliminate the active preamp connected to the DAC and use either a new technology volume control in the DAC or use a transformer linestage such as Music First
4) eliminate as many ground-loops in the system as possible, both analog and digital
5) regulate the AC power to your digital components

Your budget is possible, but it will probably run over to get all 5 of the above tackled. However, if you accomplish even 1-4, your old CDs will be joy to listen to.

One set of components that will do 1-4 is the Empirical Audio Synchro-Mesh reclocker driving the Overdrive SE DAC driving a set of Final Drive transformer buffer/selectors. Total in the $9-10K range.

The Overdrive allows selection of digital filter roll-off, so the 192 filter can be used when playing 44.1 tracks (CD). It also has a volume control technology that is superior to even the best preamps because it actually connects the DAC line-out directly to the amp. This is not a digital volume control using DSP software. This is a real volume control. The signal distortion actually decreases as the volume is lowered, unlike any other volume technology.

http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/overdrive-dac

The Synchro-Mesh is a reclocker you can use with any CD transport, expensive or cheap. Even Sonos or AppleTV. Does not matter. It delivers an ultra-low jitter signal to the Overdrive SE DAC no matter what feeds it. The jitter in this signal is actually more important than the DAC, so this is a critical element.

http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/synchro-mesh

The Final Drive inserts after the Overdrive SE DAC and will output either RCA or balanced XLR and allow you to insert and select analog signals from a vinyl or HT preamp and still drive your amps directly from the DAC, avoiding any preamp. It breaks the ground-loop between DAC and amps.

http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/final-drive

This configuration has earned awards (best of show) at RMAF and Newport for several years. Several customers have even sold their vinyl rigs after getting this combo.

Tackling #5 is harder. The only device I have found (and it works fantastically) is the Plasmatron3 from VHAudio.com. Around $3K. I don't do any digital without it anymore. Makes that big a difference. This can always be added later when the budget allows.

If you want to put some effort into computer audio, this will be even better than the Synchro-Mesh driven from a digital source or CD transport. More expense as well.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Mapman makes a very relevant and valid point. Without knowing what your system consists of, suggestions will be futile. Even then opinions will vary, but at least there will be a starting point. Otherwise, basically mimic my system and you'll be set:)
I've always believed that the virtues of high-end equipment was geared towards acoustic instruments and that rock lovers would be better served by pro-sound stuff, such as JBL Pro or EAW. In any case, I would recommend you change your speakers to something that will give you high impact without being so revealing. IMO, that will be more satisfying for you than a change in source components. I own an Ear Acute and it will not turn a poorly recorded CD into a smooth one.

Check this out - http://www.kpodj.com/eaw-la325-p-100299/
I owned an EAR Acute and thought it sounded very good especially when some great tubes were installed. So the EAR sound can be changed a bit by tube rolling.
However, I didn't like the quality of the transport which I thought was not up to the level of the rest of the unit.
Hi Shawn,
It would be helpful as others have mentioned to list your system components. I can comment on the Yamamoto DAC, it wonderfully natural and conveys the emotions of music very convincingly. The overall vibe-sound is organic with excellent tone and body, however it won't add gratuitous warmth or phoney coloration. In fact it's very resolved and realistic and avoids any hint of analytical- clinical artificiality.

It's worth checking in to and is a music lover's delight without superimposed romaticism. Cost (depending on the yen) is 2800-3000USD. I belive you'd really enjoy its presentation of music.
Good Luck,
Charles,