Phase Coherence or Time Alignment: Which More Imp?

Nice post, Tom!

I think one can argue from a lot of different perspectives, it makes for interesting conversation and enhances everyone's experience here. However, when one tries to say that something that has been to be viable (and over an extended period) "cannot work", one sure puts themselves in a difficult position.

As I reread through this thread, I am more than embarrassed to have noticed that I was flat out backwards in my Zeta description. Zeta of 0.7 is more forward, and 1.2 is more laid back. Can't believe I actually made that mistake in the morning! Surprised no one crucified me on this. Mea culpa, mea culpa...

Trelja,

I'm very surprised to hear that Bud didn't know about Zeta in re: series crossovers. He certainly had known about 1st-order series and quasi-second order series crossovers since at least as early as the Betas.

Trelja > As Larry alluded to, Bud Fried did produce time aligned speakers.

I would like more information on this, since I cannot remember a the Fried speaker whose drivers had aligned acoustic centers via a stepped baffle arrangement, an obvious prerequisite for a time aligned, dynamic speaker. (Single driver, dynamic speakers cannot just be assumed to be time aligned, as we've discussed many times in these threads.) Is there a vintage site with a picture of the C/3L?

Now, regarding Lrsky, some Fried models apparently did not have first order crossovers on all drivers. This was pointed out to me and I acknowledged the error.

When I pointed out some of your errors, you simply denied what you said and what I said. It's all in the thread, not that anyone else is going to bother keeping track. However, your many errors, combined with your evasive responses when directed to your errors, frankly reminds me of Jason Bloom hitting the sauce a wee bit too much. I find that kind of denial objectionable.

Again, for anyone who doesn't know, I am a part of the current Fried loudspeaker operation. I needed to get involved because of my feelings for Bud.

Suits_me, I was also thirsting for the information you are seeking at one point. I could not read enough about the Frieds. Thankfully, a significant amount of this can be found at http://imf-electronics.com/Fried/index.html, including the C series of pyramidal, time aligned minimonitors. There are a lot of pdfs of old sales literature. Amazing how quickly and profoundly the computer has impacted this area, most everything here was typewritten and mimeographed.

I have Bud's personal pair, and sure enough, they have been tweaked and tweaked, but think that the pair Skrivis owns are probably not all that different sounding. They have an uncanny ability to produce music without so much of the resonances that we never notice until we have a pair of loudspeakers that don't produce them. Also, as someone who has been around enough audio equipment as I have, to find a pair of speakers that image as these do really leaves one impressed. I also have the matching O subwoofers that they sit on, but don't look anything like that on the website, as they switched to a design that was narrow and deep ala what is currently in vogue.

I think you'll agree with me when I first perused the site that the description of the man literally being a generation ahead of his time was accurate. Alas, there will NEVER be another...

Yes, I surely do like my C/3-Ls, and they've served me well for 15 years or so. I'm in the process of getting them upgraded to C/6 status.