Does full range guarantee bass?


Generally speaking, if I get full range speakers, which will go below 40hz, will that get me good bass or does the amp still play a big part of it?

How many people have tube amps with great mids and hi ends, but lousy bottom, and then add a subwoofer to add the bass, even when they use full range speakers?

I read that Vandersteen subwoofers need to be paired with full range speakers in order to get the best sound? Why would that be?

In other words, do full range speakers always give you full range or just allow you to get full range?
matchstikman
Gmood1, as I'm sure you know, finding the 'right' full-range speaker is only half the battle. Contrary to popular folklore, there is still another battle to be won. And that is finding the 'right' amp to drive the 'right' speaker.

It amazes me how some to many think excellent sound will come from the 'right' speaker without giving hardly any consideration to an amplifier's unique characteristics, benefits, and shortcomings.

If one had speakers capable of reproducing frequencies down to 16 or so Hz, I would think one had better give serious consideration to aquiring the right amp, or they may end up blowing a few drivers, crossovers, etc..

There are a few benefits of having a seperate subwoofer. If the sub is active, then hopefully the sub amp is an excellent match for the sub driver. Thus eliminating some of that guess work. And then of course the main amp is free to concentrate on everything but the lowest of frequencies. Thus giving more variety toward the purchase of an amp (depending on configuration).

-IMO
I agree with Stehno. I would rather have some bookshelf
speakers than other full-range floor standers. I'd rather
have no bass than bass done poorly. The task is to find a pair of speakers that are not only "full-range" but are
also coherent from top to bottom, produce deep, tight, and
above all -- musical -- bass in a way that doesn't muddy
the mid-range, and handles detail and dynamics in a way that sounds accurate [or -- gasp -- pleasing] to your ears. Also, if you plan on extended listening sessions, make sure you can listen to them for extended periods without fatigue. THEN, find the right amplification, pre-amp, and front end. Spend hours at your local Hifi stores
listening to as many speakers as possible. Don't limit
yourself to speakers in your price range -- try to listen
to speakers at higher price points to see how they handle
coherency, bass, dynamics, etc. Then, try to get as much
of what you like at the price point you can afford.
Stehno,I totally agree.We all know there's not alot down there at 16 hz.Unless it's an action movie or something of the sort.But the guys here with real fullrange speakers ,know they are getting a decent response at 40 hz.Where alot of speakers do swan dives to -6db or worst before it even reaches the feeling of the soundwaves.I tested the 6.3s at 40hz,at this freq you can't hear anything accept the windows,pictures.and loose objects vibrating around in the room.To be able to feel John Claytons bass strings and not just hear them adds some excitement to the music.At least for me it does.Ha Ha Ha
Happy Listening!
looks like I ruffled some feathers!...c'mon this is only hi-end audio!(guilty as charged)...at any rate...for those of us who dont have 6k at our disposal(must be rough!)and thus cant afford to do it in an "all in one" speaker...a decent (active) sub "dialed" into to 40hz full range speakers(or close to as possible) can provide the full spectrum many crave...is this as seamless as a speaker that goes down into or below the 20hz range?...that remains to be seen...at any rate...a sub/monitor system is a cost effective way to achieve it....
Rsbeck, try some Mackie HR 624's. These are active 2 ways, bass as you describe. I don't think a passive 2-way can match the tight, deep, bass of an active design.