Yes, very strange. What is his sales feedback?
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I'm with Swampwalker on this. He's probably been burned
in the past by under-calculating shipping. You're not
paying the fee twice because 3% of the total will always
If you pay $1000 + 3% it is $1030. Then shipping costs
$50 + 3% = $51.50. Or if you paid the full amount plus
shipping it'd be $1050 + 3% = $1081.50. $1030 + $51.50 =
$1081.50. Break it up or combine it. Percentages don't
But it definitely is an odd way to go about selling an
One thing not mentioned here is that the fees he has charged you are *his* to pay, not yours. If he didn't bother to figure the fees into the selling price that's his problem. PayPal and eBay explicitly state that the buyer is not to be assessed the fees and yet I see it all the time. It's time the buyers started telling the sellers to go pound sand...
"PayPal and eBay explicitly state that the buyer is not to be assessed the fees and yet I see it all the time. It's time the buyers started telling the sellers to go pound sand..."
That's because PayPal and eBay are the same company. They've always had that policy, but they can only enforce it on eBay. Unless something has changed, PayPal can't stop you from collecting the fee from a buyer on other sites. If a seller on AG charges a PayPal fee, they aren't breaking any rules.
I should have mentioned this before, but I have seen many times, where a seller is trying to do the right thing with a policy like this. When a seller charges a flat rate for shipping and fees, they often get accused with trying to make a profit on them. And for the most part its true. Most sellers add a little extra to make sure they're covered no matter what happens. I haven't sold anything in quite a while, but I'm no exception. None of us wants to loose money when we sell something. But my point is, some sellers want to be completely honest and only charge actual fees. Not a penny more or less. I'm not saying that's the case here. I'm just presenting a different view. For all I know, the seller could very well be dishonest.
I see nothing wrong with the seller asking for a separate
payment/invoice for shipping if it's going to be the actual
shipping charges. I wish that I had thought of it in the
past. I've been killed on shipping several times on items
that I've sold. But, if I thought it would help the item
sell faster, I'd just go with the flat/estimated shipping
rate and eat the difference.
If this was an item that I just HAVE to have, I'd just pay
the extra fees to obtain the item. I wouldn't waste time
haggling over shipping if the estimate was anywhere near
While I have sold items overseas they were small and I have never had a problem. They were all sent by USPS.
Larger items can get much more complicated and shipping can get into hundreds of dollars so I understand the sellers system in this case because shipping cost can't be figured in advance.
Personally I would just forgo foreign sales entirely to avoid the potential nightmares and headaches, customs being one of them.
Shipping and paypal fees are nothing if your item happens to get caught up in customs. Anyone every try shipping something to and from Canada? lol. Your package just disappears for a couple of months, and reappears with a bunch of orange stickers all over it holding what used to be the box together. And your audio components is now a kit that requires assembly.
Wow! Strong comments. Completely disagree based on my substantial experience and reality. Just too broad of a brush being used here. I have separated the two and with wonderful outcomes and actually saved the buyer money. We are not all Devils on this wonderful site. As always, buyer beware and look at the feedback!
Canada...I had two nightmarish months waiting for a Micro BL-10X turntable from Canada. The tracking interrupted when the parcel left Canada and then appeared in Rusisan in 1.5 or 2 months.
Besides, though I paid for double packaging, the seller said when he brought the TT to the post office they did not accept it in the double box due to its size, so he had to discard the outer box... I thing he was lying - the TT is not bulky and its net weight is only 12.5 kg.
Luckily, it came safe in a single manufacturer's box and I am happy with this turntable.