Help with Denon 2900/5900 or MarantzDV8400 or ?

I have a short review posted here on a handful of SACD players and will add a couple more to that list in a few weks; click on the "review" icon under my screen name to read them. The SACD playback of the Denon is a let down when using the 8400 as the reference, as another reviewer also mentioned when comparing these 2 machines. Both myself and the friend who loaned me the 2900 didn't think very highly of the redbook side either in the grand scheme of things, but for $700 one could do worse, a good entry level piece into the foray, great for a $3k or less system. It's fairly priced for what it does, but not an overachiever by any counts, not on any format, except perhaps video and DVDA, according to others, but I don't care for video or DVDA (no worthwhile music) and didn't not compare.

Just my opinions, and for another one, if the redbook of the 5900 is identical to the 2900 then I'd suggest folks spend there money elsewhere if cd playback is important at the $2K level (TONS of competition here), or at least be prepared to buy an external dac, as I know a few folks have already done for their 5900's from reading various BB's. In the end, of course, to each his own! Don't take my word or anyone elses for that matter, listen for yourself if possible, it's MUCH more fun that way. Whatever makes you happy, roll with it. There's always something better out there, the key is being happy with what you have regardless of that fact as long as you are connecting with the music.... :)

Matt54321...A side-by-side comparison of the Denon with other players is not something I was able to do. Of course I have heard various players at audio dealers, but this does not really give a good comparison because the associated equipment and program material is always different. I previously have used a Mission CD player, and a Rotel CD player, and I first experimented with SACD and DVD-A using a Pioneer DV45A. The $400 Pioneer was excellent value, but the Denon does SACD better, (for more than twice the price).

When I say that I hear no need to upgrade, what I mean is that I can identify no fault in the sound. A side-by-side comparison with a $6000 player might reveal something about the Denon that could be better, and make me dissatisfied, so it would be wise to avoid such a test.

Most reviewers have described the Denon 2900 in favorable terms, and I think that the Underwood modifications (described in detail) make sense if you want to spend more money.

I had Marantz DV8400 for a week, and was quite disappointed with its redbook performance, even though I read it betters Denon 2900 (haven't a chance to check it myself, though). I'm doubt that currently there are universal players in DV8400 price range that match quality of good dedicated CDPs.

There is a very extensive denon 5900 thread on AVC forum with many comparisons between 2900 and 5900. ALL who compared them side by side came to a conclusion that 5900 sounds better than 2900 on ALL formats. Some thought 5900 sounds much better and some thought it sounds slightly better than 2900 but I have not seen anyone (except Underwood HIFI who are pushing 2900 with mods for more $$ than 5900) who compared the two and thought they sound the same.