Can CD's be loud and ok?


I've read on an other thread how a lot of new releases on CD are overcompressed or eq'd to distortion levels.
Certainly heard that on the last Jayhawks record.
However,surely (or maybe not)CD's can be mastered to a higher volume without distorting the original recording?
Yes?
No?
Just that I have some new CD's that are loud but seem (to me at least)to have a good balanced sound.
Madonna's last record and the last Blur album sound like that to me(to name but 2)-loud in regards to some older CD's.
Likewise if you listen to remastered versions they do get noticeably louder.
Check out Pink Floyd's DSOM from Mob.Fid to the 94 version to the SACD hybrid.
ben_campbell
The latest Steely Dan release is mixed loud, but it sounds quite good. The audible distortion you hear on some records is because at some point in the recording process they exceeded digital zero. Sometimes this is done by accident, and though it's hard to believe, sometimes it's done on purpose. To call an engineer's use of compression distortion is to miss it's creative uses. Virtually all of your classic (60's - 80's) rock has used compression as a creative device. Check out the Kinks "All Day & All of the Night". One of the reasons alot of professionals love recording to analog tape is the gentle compression effect it gives. Vinyl mastering also has some well known compression artifacts.
Lucinda Williams' "Car Wheels On A Gravel Road" is both one of the loudest and best sounding CDs I have ever come across.

It is an HDCD, and easily sounds better than a "normal" CD on a regular player. But, on my HDCD player, the difference becomes much larger.
The direct answer to your second question is yes, it's possible, but such a recording might not have the best signal to noise ratio. You won't be able to get the slammin' in your face sound of recent pop/rock recordings without the use of advanced compression techniques, but your recording can still be reasonably loud.

The dynamic range of live music is enormous and dosen't easily translate to any recorded medium. Limiting and compression are automated volume regulation techniques used to control the wide dynamic range signal. Using a compressor is the equivalent of turning up the volume when the sound is soft and turning down the volume when the sound is loud. Originally the performance of the compressor was supposed to be imperceptible to a listener, but then came the British Invasion. Several artists used audible, aggressive compression as an integral part of their "sound". The modern use of "hyper" compression is the result of artists emulating the sound of loud radio stations. There's nothing inherently wrong with the use of compression, but like any effect, it's over use can be annoying.
Thanks to everybody for answering.
I'm finding this interesting-is it possible to fully know extents of this technique?
Obviously I state The Jayhawks case which I would guess is extreme with it's distortion.
But do the more perceptive listeners (and I do believe that is a talent)every hear a recording that confuses them?
I'll also be interested to hear comments on particular releases the likes of the last records by Norah Jones,Beck,Radiohead,Peter Gabriel or indeed any record that Audiogoners might use to state for their argument.