OK, I made the leap...

When I got back into audio my first source component was a Sony ES777sacd...a really fine player. Before long I got the bug and bought a Rega P25 here on A'gon. That table along with a Grado low output Reference Sonata cart and Lehman Black Cube cost me less than 2K and blows my cd player away......John

Sounds to me like the VTA is pretty far off on that table you have, but maybe there are other things going on that I don't know about.

Anyway, there are a variety of tables, arms, and cartridges out there, and it can be confusing.

I'd recommend reading some of the analog archives in your spare time to bone up on the particulars of analog, and read some reviews and threads on some of the items you may be considering. Study will take you a long way to making a good decision.

Making correct matching decisions is a big part of getting your analog system right. The stuff has to work well together. You can't just plug any cartridge on any arm and put it on any turntable and expect great results. However, as most analog gear in the higher end market is quite good, you'll have a good chance of getting it pretty close to right if you pay even the least bit of attention to matching.

For a newbie, I think that staying in the medium range of cartridge compliance(15cu) and medium mass arm(~10-11grams) will get you into the ballpark without too much room for error. Stay out of the low compliance stuff until you have enough knowledge and experience to make some educated choices there. Or, if you want to go there, then use some of the information in the archives to find out what cartridges and tonearms are used together commonly and are popular with good comments. That could help. Also, you could do the same things with turntables and arms. Some arms are more suitable for certain turntables than others are. The archives will be good for this too.

Another thing you'll have to deal with is cartridge output vs phono stage gain, to get that matchup right. One way is to get a very flexible phono stage with many gain settings, and just try some of them to see which gain works best with your cartrige in your system. Use the cartridge loading that the manufacturer specifies, or consult the archives.

You'll need some setup tools, and you can buy a mirrored protractor for about $20 and a stylus force scale for about $20 from http://www.turntablebasics.com. These are acceptable quality and inexpensive.

Make sure that your tonearm either has a VTA adjustment, or you can get an "add-on" accessory VTA adjuster. This is important. If you can't get the VTA right, your rig won't sound good. There are so many different tonearms and cartridges on the market, that there can be no "one size fits all" VTA setting for a tonearm. You have to adjust the VTA for the cartridge that you are using, and that's all there is to it. Make sure you can do VTA adjustment with the arm, with either the factory adjustment, or by adding an aftermarket adjuster.

I have a Teres turntable, but there are plenty of other good turntables out there too.

You can post some particular questions on the forum that relate to some decisions you are making, and the crew will give you some guidance. Often there is no consensus on a particular issue, so the final decision is yours.

I want to commend Rushton on the pictures thing. Damn showoff,
y' makin' the rest 'f us look lahk IDjits!

Excellent advice from all those above, particularly the part about spending some quality time in the archives before dropping major cash. I spent three months doing that before choosing my TT, arm and cartridge. As Twl rightly pointed out, component synergy is critical for an analog front end. Much more so than for digital. I've heard some very fine cartridges play pretty badly when mounted on the wrong arm, and vice versa.

I don't think anyone has mentioned that you'll have to decide between Moving Magnet and Moving Coil cartridges. MM's are less expensive, easier to set up and will match nearly any phono stage. Your flea market Sansui probably has one. MC's range from slightly to obscenely more expensive, are often very finicky about setup and require perfect matching to phono stage and/or stepup devices. Guess which type everyone on this thread listens to? It's worth the hassle, but it is a hassle.

Totally agree with AEW and Jphii on the record cleaning machine. Doing vinyl well is neither easy nor cheap. But it can be time-consuming and addicting.

Like many others here I ended up with a Teres and have no regrets at all, but there are fine tables from many manufacturers. I'll throw one possible rig out, just to give you some meat to chew on:

TT: Teres 160 ($2250)
Arm: Expressimo modded Rega RB-250, 11g eff mass ($635)
Cart: there are many good MC's < $1K (budget $750)
Phono: defer to others with more experience (budget $750)
RCM: VPI 16.5 ($500)

That's $4885, $110 less than the list price of your Eclipse. Buy some setup tools and a carbon fiber brush. I guarantee your CDP will soon have more dust on it than your LP's.

Thanks everyone for the responses. It really helps to get the specific recommendations and pricing to give me an idea of what I can expect to spend to equal or better my current dig. system. Unfortunately, it’s not a good time of year for me to be making any purchases (construction worker); however, I now have an idea of what to save for. I think it’s clear that there is no use in just kind of upgrading. Might as well bite the bullet and go for broke when fund become available. I’ll be keeping an eye on the used market. Actually maybe I shouldn’t right now, it’ll kill me if something comes up and I have to let it go. Crap, I knew I shouldn’t have drifted to this side.
I have done a lot of reading in the archive threads already. What a hornets nest. Many there seem to be rather opinionated. After reading for many hours, I was more confused than when I started, which is why I started this thread. It turns out that I’m not only a construction worker, I also own the company. I added this just to let you know how much I appreciate recommendations of specific combinations that work well together. By the time my day is over and I make time to listen music, I just want to listen, not have to fool around trying this and that to hear what seems better. I get enough stress at work, I just want to relax and listen.
Thanks once again, I knew I could count on you.
Brad

I'm going to offer a contrarian's opinion on the record cleaning machine. I own a one (VPI HW-17) and I use it all the time. But, it is not *necessary*, imo. Convenient, yes. Necessary, no. CLEANING our LPs is necessary, but this can be done very well manually (using the Disc Doctor cleaning method, for example) without the expense of a multi-hundred dollar machine.

I'm offering this alternative viewpoint because suggesting that someone new to vinyl, or just getting back into vinyl, needs to buy an expensive RCM seems to me like a good way to scare people off from enjoying vinyl.

My recommendation to someone just getting (back) into vinyl: keep it high quality, but keep it simple. Grow from there.

Cheers.

P.S. - Sorry about the pictures. Should I stop?
The moderators would probably appreciate it. :-)