High quality AC turntable motor


I am looking for a high grade AC motor for my Townshend Elite Rock turntable.
The current motor is specified to run at 110v 250rpm. I reckon that it's got very little torque. I have considered the phillips and the premotec - but they appear to offer no real alternative so far as specs are concerned with what I have.

I have seen a couple of motors on the RS Online website by the likes of Berger, and Crouzet. The Crouzet motor intrigues due to it's high torque rating. my concern is whether or not it is noisy, and vibrates a lot.

Does anyone have experience with these motors? or does anyone have any suitable suggestions?

I intend to try out a few different power supplies on the deck at some point.
lohanimal
Palasr, I'm sorry for not being clear. I can generate quadrature sinewaves, with the ability to vary the phase and amplitude of the waveforms. My question was, now that I have two waveforms and the ability to vary phase and amplitude, what is the procedure for finding the magic setting. Are you measuring the speed distortions of the platter as a result of some sort of systematic tweaking of the waveforms.
Don

Posted 11:53 AM 28-NOV-2012
Redglobe -

No kits ever again.

No point in doing a schematic, the drive uses a custom programmed chip and two custom made transformers.
Grbluen2,

There is no procedure for finding the 'magic setting', as every motor is different. For example, I have three Hurst 300 RPM motors, but really only one is worth a damn - the other two can never be quieted down to a suitable level, and never quite sound right. I set a motor so as to null vibration as much as possible - you can either hold the motor in your hand, use a mechanics stethoscope, or listen to the table rotating in a lead-out or locked groove. From there, I'll look at the waveform on an oscilloscope to ensure the sine waves look nice; I generally find that a slightly distorted waveform actually yields a better result than a pure sine wave (I don't know why). From there on, it's all in the listening, trying to balance torque requirements with vibration considerations. I'll vary the voltage of each phase slightly, and make assessments from there. For example, a motor with too much voltage will always place too much emphasis on the attack of notes, while too little will yield a bloated bass and a really laid back presentation. The more you play around, the easier it becomes to hear where you're at and establish a baseline sonic signature - speed never varies given the nature of the motor, but the way the motor deals with heavy modulation, stylus drag and the like can all be readily discerned. Unfortunately, there is no purely objective way of measuring any of this, like so much in this odd little hobby. Trust your ears, and beyond all else, have some fun.
Palasr,
Thanks so very much. I'd hoped I was near the end, but I suppose that I'm just beginning (again) :)
Don
Posted 10: 40 AM 29-Nov-2012