Anyone here knows the Reed 3Q tonearm?


Hello Guys,

I saw the Reed 3Q around the net and it smells a good tonearm .. it's interesting the 12" Reed 3Q or better I could be interested for my TW Acustic Raven One
Anyone here knows this arm and how it works/sounds?

here the link to see the Reed 3Q 12" tonearm

http://www.excelstereo.com/reed.htm

Best wishes to everyOne

Curio
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Dear Mesael: +++++ " 12" arm does sound relaxed. " +++++

well IMHO if that is what you heard then your 12" tonearms were wrong with the cartridges you mated.

I try several 12" tonearms ( even against the same manufacturer 9-10" models. ) and I don't heard that relaxed sound.

Of course with a different audio system you have and with a different targets and priority quality performance home audio system music reproduction.

I'm not against " relaxed " sound but I'm for natural, true, accurate, non-colored and real sound as best we can mimic at home and taking always a live music as reference and not what " I like ".

regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
Hello Raul, maybe I'm using the wrong term, I'm not good with words anyway. What I mean is I feel more at ease with 12" tonearm.

To be more specific, with Judy Collins "Judith" which is my reference lp for female vocal. 1st tract side A, with 9" tonearm there are parts like she's almost to a point of shouting,and more upfront. With 12" tonearm her voice feel relaxed and I never get tired of playing it. One may point out I'm using different tonearms. But how many could afford one 9" Grandezza and another 12" in this real world.

Happy listening,
Guys .. thanks to everyOne!
I'm starting to like alot the sound of a 12" inches arm

The only doubt I'm having is regarding this Ziricote wood .. and its 22gr.arm mass .. paired with my Benz LP
Low frequencies sometimes a bit too powerful.
Sometimes with certain LP (like Amused to death ,D side) I got a very deep but telling the truth controlled ..low frequencies... so deep I never listened before
Maybe these are normal but I wasn't used to get with the Michell Tecnoarm and the same cart.
Or maybe 22gr. are too much high mass for the relatively medium compliance of the Benz LP (15 cu.)
In this case I would be better to consider the same Reed 12" but with the Red Cedar wood .. kinda 14gr. arm mass.

In your opinion .. Guys .. to come down from 22gr. arm mass to the 14 gr. arm mass of the Red Cedar .. could be a better choice for the BenzLP?
Hi Curio,
A Lexan platter mat would be helpful to bring back some vividness.
But in this case the cartridge is boring! so, it can compensates for the Technoarm's inherent confusion & everyone is happy again!
My experience with this cartridge in my Pluto 9A, was exactly as your's in your Reed 3Q. I asure you : you are hearing the Benz LP. And you don't like it. That Raul has the proper arm for her, it is not irelevant, once you have also the Technoarm that matched well. Well...Does this mean that Technoarm betters the Reed 3Q ? I think it is clear that one can find some kind of balance in one way or another :
The Cardas cables behaves as the same medicine when someone trying to match a SS amp with ESL speakers. (Same contribution as the Benz LP).
A solid core Silver cable somehow resonates with similar results (of the Technoarm) : lacks soundstage & inner depth but it's forward projection adds a directness that can cheat you to prefer a Telefunken or a Mullard tube over an RCA or Sylvania, when the right tube is the Siemens.
The mixing & matching decisions must always have a point of reference, a component of a high enough standard, that we accept it as indispensable for building our system around it. If you choose the Benz LP as your unquestionable reference, (that means your system somewhere needs a shutter) then, the Reed 3Q is acting like the soft British tube in an allready overly warm preamp. No wonder why, a flat-lean cartridge in a wood body on a 12" wood arm tube, results in "overboring" performance (for a lack of a more precise word). Can anyone acuse the arm ? Sure, (as often the casual listener acuse the stethoscope relentless penetration of a compression driver but not the upstream components behind it).
In my belief, I think that the source must be of the highest resolution : the most detailed & nuanced, like a surgical instrument with the utmost precision & at this hunting, (of turntables & cartridges) the easy, calm & effortless performance (with great tonality) of the 12"Reed 3Q arm is the unmistakable indication of it's rightness. Simultaneously, this behaviour is necessary for an arm, as it can push further the apparent capacity, living more space for a credible cartridge evaluation. It can permits the most dynamic, speedy & razor sharp (but unforgiving) cartridge, to release it's scale & gives what other cartridges, (or any other component) cannot offer to our system. Wouldn't be a shame to downsize here, -at the very start of the signal- and afterwards to seek in desperation for (ie): power cables, to deliver what is permanently lost at the begining?
Something in this specific set-up acts as the limiting factor, -filtering the delicacy of inner detail, -doesn't move your senses, -can not engage your emotions. Is it the Technoarm? No! Even if it is the weakest link in the chain, It can only pass the cartridge's signature.

FWIW : (insider gold Vs insider ref. & colibri XGP Vs XGW) I used to own all of them. All the wooden bodies presenting a lower dynamic range, definition, detail & clarity.
Perhaps to look for the lack of transparency elsewhere in the chain but not to the Reed 3Q. (probably to your cartridge and/or perhaps your speakers).

Don't Give Up
George
Hi Curio, I provided the new web site for the Reed so you
should first look for the data regarding the eff. mass of
the different wood kinds. I ordered the Reed 2A, 12" with Pernambucco wood tube (27 gr.) a year of so ago. But I intended to use this 'heavy mass' with a cart with very
low compliance (Phase Tech P-3G). So I am very happy with
this combo. I am not sure what Raul thinks about this co-
relation between eff.mass and cart compliance but I do check the 'abvious' whenever I consider a new tonearm.
That is why I thought that the Red Cedar would make a good
combo with your Benz LP. BTW I use Benz Ruby 3S with my Triplanar VII and this cart is identical with the LP except
for the wood corpus.
Regards,