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Cartridge upgrade for VPI Scout

I am considering upgrading my cartridge. My setup is a VPI Scout on a Ginko Cloud 11, Simaudio LP5.3 w/ PS, and Dynavector 10x5.

Rest of system is BAT VK-31SE pre, BAT VK-55 amp, and Esoteric MG-10 monitor speakers.

I am looking for more transparency accross the board, and a more open, airy top end. I prefer a brighter top end than I am getting. I am relatively new to analog, so I don't have the knowlege yet to know what to look for in a cartridge upgrade. Originally, I pretty much went with the salesman's recommendation on the 10x5, and it has been a great cartridge for the money IMO.

I do like the Dynavector sound. I am considering the 20X-L, but am worried that it won't be enough of an improvement. The 17D3 looks interesting, but some have warned about the short cantilever. The Shelter 501 was recomended by one of the guys at Music Direct.

Price range- $500-600 (used) or $1000 new.

Thoughts?
mekong56
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islandmandan
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I am using a Dynavector XX2MKII cart, the same phono stage as yours, (except mine has a Signature upgrade from The Upgrade Company) 300 RPM motor, and Signature JMW arm on my Scout. Significant improvements have been made by isolation and vibration abatement methods in use. The XX2MKII is a cartridge I heartily recommend for the Scout. Implementing isolation and vibration control can make tremendous improvements in performance without spending a great deal of money. As mentioned in the thread, arm and cartridge set-up is also a must to get maximum performance. Also, be pateint, and observe carefully what small changes in VTF, VTA, and azimuth can make. Bottom line, the Scout is a great platform, and if care is taken it can get you a LONG way to excellent analog sound.

Enjoy,
Dan
dreadhead
353 posts
 
I have had numerous cartridges over the years on many different decks and the one I enjoyed the most was the Dynavector 20x on a VPI TNTjr.
It's in your price range new so I would give it some serious consideration. It's not a "bright" sounding cartridge, but I think it's worth a try.
actusreus
733 posts
 
I'm selling my moving iron Sounsdmith Aida cartridge that was recommended to me over the Dynavector by my dealer and I've been very happy with for a few months on my Scout. It retails new for $1000 and the used price is in your range. If you're interested, please check out my ad in the classifieds here. Thanks.
dougdeacon
3,338 posts
 
Intelligent suggestion by Stringreen. A base like the Cloud might well darken the sound.

In addition, before dropping money on a cartridge I'd try all of the following:
- reduce VTF
- reduce/eliminate anti-skating (if you use)
- raise arm height
- higher phono input impedance settings

Getting the most from a vinyl rig requires active, thoughtful user involvement. Because playback conditions are always changing, no dealer can do these things for you. You must learn to do them yourself, and keep after it constantly. There are ample resources on the web or on DVD to teach you how. You just have to provide the interest and effort.

Develop an understanding of the gear you have and optimize it before dropping money on new stuff that may or may not provide what you're seeking. Even big dollar cartridges with the finest top ends (like my ZYX UNIverse) don't sound that way if they aren't set up right.
mekong56 OP
137 posts
 
Thanks for all the sugestions guys.

Stingreen-
I did try taking it off the Ginko, but it seemed to muddy the overall clarity, and did not have an effect on the upper treble. I am a drummer, so I prefer a "hotter" top end to get a nice sizzle and air out of the cymbals.

Dougdecaon-
You are right, I need to learn setup techniques. Unfortunately I had the guy at Music Direct set up the table when I bought it, and to be honest, I am a little intimidated with the setup stuff. I definitely need TT setup 101, no doubt about it.
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