SME 10 or Aries 3 with SME IV

I agree with everything SME10 says which is why this table is on my short list. Consider the small footprint, bullet proof construction and quite possibly in my opinion the most ingenious construction of any turntable I have seen for the price. Yes, it requires a nice shelf like all non suspended designs, but the plug and play is unsurpassed. The only downside here in North America (Canada) is the very high price which is why used is the way to go. Stanwal is correct as well, I think at this level the differences would be small and not large, I would probably be very happy with VPI and their customer service is quite good and they always get back to you when you ask a question which is more than I can say for a lot of manufacturers out there. Rauliruegas suggests Galibier and Acoustic Signature both great tables but the idea of having the motor away from the plinth makes them a bigger footprint of a table and I don't like the idea of a turntable forcing me to re-arrange my living space or turntable racks...besides they are quite heavy.

Hey what about the Xerxes .20? Any thoughts? I personally think it can't hold a candle to the SME10 or VPI but still...

I bought a new SME 10 back when they were $6,950. I upgraded to a SME V arm and put it all on a Mapleshade platform (see virtual system). Recently upgraded the cartridge. Speed stability and build quality are superb. Once set-up properly, it stays that way. Very small footprint and easy to operate. I would not hesitate to buy one used. It would be a great value for the money ($3500-4000).

I've heard two Scoutmasters in different systems (Magico with Nagra, and B&W with tubes), but never the Aries 3. Difficult to say what the TT's contributed to the overall system sounds, but images were more stable and focused and rythm/pace was better, more involving to my ears with my SME front-end.

Just one more opinion, but if you already have the SME arm, I would add that the synergy of the IV arm with the SME table would seem to be a good combo.

Hey Peterayer, I agree with you that is where I am leaning towards; getting one used between 3500-4000 I love the idea that you unpack it, add oil and a little bit more every year (just a drop) and enjoy the music. Brilliant!!! Imagine how I lived with a Linn for so many years!

I think you may want to email these guys; great service and the cheapest I have found!!
http://www.hi-fi-specialist.co.uk/, (they ship all over the world).

With the current economic situation, there are bargains to be had! I saw a sme 10 go for $2000, a few weeks back.
Peterayer has a good point inregards to having an sme arm on an sme TT.
Good luck with whatever you choose.