Why can some speakers disappear so effortlessly? (Fritz's Carbon 7 SE Mk 2)


Six years in, and my Carbon 7 SE Mk 2 by Fritz Heiler still do the thing that first amazed me about them: they vanish. I sit down, stare right at each cabinet, and still can't place the sound coming from either one. No sound from the left, no sound from the right — just a stage hanging in the room between them.

Everything else holds up too. Bass that's deep and articulate — pitch and texture, not just weight. Midrange that puts people in the room. Extended top end that's detailed without ever tipping into harshness.

I have other speakers too — large, sealed, Beyma AMT plus JBL 15" drivers — and I've been trying a wide range of amps over the years, running them through both speakers each time. Lately it's a DIY Class D that's lighting up the Carbons in a way I didn't expect. Before that, my Dynaco ST-35 also sounded great — and the Carbons still disappeared.

Anyone else own a speaker that still catches them off guard years in?

hilde45

@deep_333

Driver cost isn't the argument. Crossover design, cabinet construction, bracing, finish work, voicing, and the actual engineering time that goes into making those parts work together — that's most of what you're paying for, and it's also most of what determines whether a speaker disappears or not. Anyone can buy the same drivers Fritz uses. Getting them to integrate this cleanly, this consistently, across amps and rooms, is the hard part, and it's the part that doesn't show up on a parts invoice.

On the cost-of-living dig: that's not really a fair knock. Skilled labor and design time cost what they cost regardless of zip code, and a one-man shop hand-building crossovers and finishing cabinets to order isn't padding margin to cover property tax — he's pricing the actual hours in the product.

I'll pass on the Tekton comparison. I've heard a good range of speakers at a good range of prices over the years, and the Carbons are the ones I keep coming back to post about six years later. I've heard Tektons -- they sound like crap. That's the whole reason I'm here — not because I haven't heard cheaper alternatives, but because I have. And more expensive ones. Fritz beats every bookshelf I've tried.

Fair point on phase and disappearance, though — that's real, and it's not exclusive to small monitors. But the Fritz disappear BETTER.

 Hey deep 333, why don't you buy those speakers 

for Hilde , or better yet ,why don't YOU buy the Fritz and get back to us ?  Or really better yet, try to contribute to a thread once in a while without your snarky tough guy condescending  attitude . Or just shut up...

^ lol,  @deep_333 may have a point about large speakers doing the disappearing act if you know what you're doing. However, comparing those Tekton's to the Fritz is funnier than @winoguy17 telling the condescending, snarky tough guy to shut up! My experience is with Merlin TSM's, Trenner and Friedl Art's and a couple of ACI's back in the day. They all throw a huge soundstage that defied their size.