Do clothes make the man?


This post is directed at all you golden oldies out there who are old enough, or in a rare case, educated well enough to be aware of the question the title asks.

I bought a used set of Quicksilver Horn Mono amps looking for some tube magic for my efficient speakers.  I was less than impressed by what I heard.  Let's just say the sound was as flat as a day old Doctor Pepper.

I changed the clothes on these little amps by installing a new set of Chinese made Svetlana El34.  Omg, I now have a new man in front of me.  The sound is what I expected originally, but it was totally suppressed by the unbranded Viva Tubes it came with.

The moral of the story?  The tubes make the amp like the clothes make the man.  Be aware though that you can't get by with putting lipstick on a pig.

abnerjack

How can one determine if swapping vacuum tubes results in better sound, without trying all sorts of alternatives?

For me at least, that’s the allure of tube rolling. I find it interesting to hear the variations. 
 

Beyond that, who seeks to buy Russian OR Chinese stuff? I prefer NOT to. This is not anything but a desire to not support them.

I hear you, but beyond Western Electric in the U.S. and JJ Tubes in Slovakia (if I remember correctly), what other major manufacturers are there outside of Russia and China? And even then, I would consider Western Electric boutique and far from a major manufacturer since the only tube they currently mass produce is the 300B. 

Or were you referring to NOS? But even then rectifiers that could be had for $12 pre-pandemic, are now running between $45 - $75 depending on condition and with no guarantees.

Personally, I can’t afford NOS power tubes whereas driver and rectifier tubes may be in reach given their general longevity. 

 

"You’d think Quicksilver would supply better-sounding tubes in their amps."

@noromance Those amps were bought used. Mike at Quicksilver does not use those tubes in his new amps!!

I’m glad you found tubes that sound good in your amps.

"unbranded Viva Tubes" ?

Viva is a seller, not a maker, and all these tubes they sell have the maker’s identification listed in the ads and printed on the tubes.

https://www.ebay.com/str/vivatubesnosvintagevacuumtubes

from Quicksilver's site:

"As with all Quicksilver amplifiers many different output tubes may be plugged in directly with no adjustments:  Matched pairs of EL34, KT90, KT88, KT77, KT66, 6550, or 6l6 output tubes".

what was in it?

I like EL-34s and KT88’s. I’ve used some of the others as temporary until I research and replace them with .... 

do you have a tester, IOW, perhaps the tubes that came with it were weak or bad?